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AlvinYork

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Re: How about a Lee 459-500-3R knock off?
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2018, 11:47:49 AM »
Just checking in to see if the samples arrived.

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Re: How about a Lee 459-500-3R knock off?
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2018, 01:28:32 PM »
Samples arrived. I just need to measure them and draw them up.

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Re: How about a Lee 459-500-3R knock off?
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2018, 02:03:23 PM »
take a look at this drawing and let me know what you'd like to change:


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Re: How about a Lee 459-500-3R knock off?
« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2018, 01:58:26 AM »
I always wanted a little wider or deeper lube groves as I shoot mine with black powder in a rollingblock. Maybe .458 dia, I have a tight bore on my rifle so that is just me :) But no matter what put me down for a 4 cavity plain base in aluminum even if I have to go sell something!

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Re: How about a Lee 459-500-3R knock off?
« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2018, 08:16:27 AM »
If it was run at 0.470" as well it would make a fine 450/577 Martini Henry bullet.

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Re: How about a Lee 459-500-3R knock off?
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2018, 11:09:32 AM »
I'd like a gc option but I'll take whatever is manufactured. 4 cav in brass.

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Re: How about a Lee 459-500-3R knock off?
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2018, 01:06:10 PM »
A gas check option would be available.

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Re: How about a Lee 459-500-3R knock off?
« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2018, 09:41:20 AM »
Make the mold blocks big as possible, this design often tends to an off-centre nose if dropped while still too hot, giving one of the all-time bast cast bullets (imho) a bad reputation as 'unstable' when casting error was to blame. I wonder if bigger mold blocks might draw off some of the heat from the alloy. When I use the little Lee mold, I need to wait quite a while for it to cool enough in front of a little fan before gently dropping into a deep soft pile of cotton scrap.

I make these hardcast by oven hardening, need such care when quenching them, but well worth it. Impossibly good in my Marlin 1895 (loaded singly) at distance.

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Re: How about a Lee 459-500-3R knock off?
« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2018, 02:09:38 PM »
When I cast with large bullets per blocksize, I usually have a moist towel or sponge I use to help the mold blocks cool.

Make the mold blocks big as possible, this design often tends to an off-centre nose if dropped while still too hot, giving one of the all-time bast cast bullets (imho) a bad reputation as 'unstable' when casting error was to blame. I wonder if bigger mold blocks might draw off some of the heat from the alloy. When I use the little Lee mold, I need to wait quite a while for it to cool enough in front of a little fan before gently dropping into a deep soft pile of cotton scrap.

I make these hardcast by oven hardening, need such care when quenching them, but well worth it. Impossibly good in my Marlin 1895 (loaded singly) at distance.

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Re: How about a Lee 459-500-3R knock off?
« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2018, 11:11:54 PM »
I do that too, I need to use distilled water in my area, or the blocks get caked in scale

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Re: How about a Lee 459-500-3R knock off?
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2018, 10:49:23 AM »
I was hoping for more interest in this design. It's a great bullet and looks real nice in the case. I see cornmastah has it right around 500g with ww. My own alloy is a bit lighter. Based on the empirical evidence I've gathered my alloy weight can be expressed as a function of the original wheel weight weight as such
       AlloyWeight = WW_Weight - (WW_Weight * 0.07)
So that 500g comes out to
                                  500 - (500 * 0.07) = 500 - 35 = 465g
When I make a batch I stick to the formula I have so it's consistent across my 60# runs that I do in my  Harbor Freight  cast iron pot. I got the biggest one they had. Then I  ladle out to an 18 hole mini-bread loaf baking sheet to get roughly 3.5# ingots.
  Anyway I guess I've wandered a bit. But it's a great bullet regardless of what alloy you use so put in your "I want" so we can get this thing made!

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Re: How about a Lee 459-500-3R knock off?
« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2018, 05:35:16 PM »
do we have at least 5ish guys interested so we can start the buy or do we want to modify the design?

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Re: How about a Lee 459-500-3R knock off?
« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2018, 02:18:35 AM »
I am good with it as it is. I am up for the deeper lube groove if anyone else is up for it.

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do we have at least 5ish guys interested so we can start the buy or do we want to modify the design?


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Re: How about a Lee 459-500-3R knock off?
« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2018, 11:55:36 AM »
Looks like we have 4, if Dromia is in.

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Re: How about a Lee 459-500-3R knock off?
« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2018, 02:00:53 PM »
Right now I have a big gap in bullet weights. I have a 535 postell that actually drops about 540 and a 405 FN and a 500 like this one will fill the gap. So I'm interested in this mould.

 



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