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Title: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on March 24, 2016, 01:10:41 PM
Last year I started working on reloading references for the NOE bullet designs, it has gone slower than expected because of the limits of my time but also because I needed to come up with templates that would make the Load Note sheets consistent across all the types of designs and contain as much information as possible for the bullet caster. Al and I think that we have a good format that addresses as many considerations as possible when generating the data so it is time to get started. A quick look at his store's pages confirms exactly what an undertaking this will be so rather than work from A to Z, I thought I would ask as to what the immediate need of NOE's customer base is concerning the information to get your bullets out the barrel.

In order to understand how the suggested loads are generated and how the pages are formatted, please read:  Pressure Notes (http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/data/Pressure_Notes.pdf).

Here is what the formatted Load Note pages look like and how the information is presented: 378-275 H&H Mag (http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/data/NOE/PDF/30/378275_375H&HMag.pdf)

If you recommend a bullet design, please include what cartridge you using with the design.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: SwedeNelson on March 31, 2016, 05:08:32 PM
Interesting - 147 views and no requests for load information.

Not sure what to think
Bullet maker, maker
Al Nelson
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: GregP42 on March 31, 2016, 10:36:47 PM
Ah,

I was just waiting to see if anyone else would speak up :)

If you have the time I would love data for the 125gr Grendel bullet,
and also the 460-425 in a 45-70, and if you feel up to it loads for the 513-850-FN GC in 50BMG :D

I keep waiting for that one to be ran again!

Greg
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: AlvinYork on April 01, 2016, 08:39:31 PM
Hi GregP42
 I responded to your post in Forum Questions.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: LouieLouie on April 02, 2016, 04:33:46 AM
There's a couple of 9.3x62 shooters here using the 368-280-FN (mine drop at 289 gr) that would be interested if you could work something up. My PRVI brass is running about 75.25 gr H2O in capacity and my barrel is 20".
I would've spoken up sooner but I just got to this subject. Thanx.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 03, 2016, 12:11:42 AM
Ah,

I was just waiting to see if anyone else would speak up :)

If you have the time I would love data for the 125gr Grendel bullet,
and also the 460-425 in a 45-70, and if you feel up to it loads for the 513-850-FN GC in 50BMG :D

I keep waiting for that one to be ran again!

Greg

Greg, could you be specific about the 125-grain bullet you are referencing.

The 460-425, is that the Ranch Dog bullet? I started calling that bullet the 435-435 Right before I closed up shop. I need to get Swede to update some of his references. Here I a list of my designs: Ranch Dog Outdoors (http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com)
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 03, 2016, 12:21:15 AM
I'm traveling over the weekend so will get this started to midweek.

Will keep a running list of requests to work on

Pending:
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: GregP42 on April 04, 2016, 12:50:55 AM
Ah,

I was just waiting to see if anyone else would speak up :)

If you have the time I would love data for the 125gr Grendel bullet,
and also the 460-425 in a 45-70, and if you feel up to it loads for the 513-850-FN GC in 50BMG :D

I keep waiting for that one to be ran again!

Greg

Greg, could you be specific about the 125-grain bullet you are referencing.

The 460-425, is that the Ranch Dog bullet? I started calling that bullet the 435-435 Right before I closed up shop. I need to get Swede to update some of his references. Here I a list of my designs: Ranch Dog Outdoors (http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com)

OK, the 6.5mm is the 266-125-FN and it is loaded for the 6.5mm Grendel.
The other is the SC460-425-RF GC

Thank you very much :)

Greg
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 04, 2016, 02:46:24 PM
Thanks! The list is updated and I will start on this once home. It takes about a hour to build each Load Note Sheet, an hour and a half if the work is for a revolver cartridge, which means that I can only generate one sheet a day because of the demands of my time. I'm only saying this so you can forecast when they will be posted. I will start tomorrow, in the order that that where requested, and post the links here.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 07, 2016, 12:43:28 PM
Of course I'm running behind, should start on this today.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: mph911 on April 07, 2016, 04:55:44 PM
Michael,

How about the same 266-125-FN bullet in the 6.5x55 Swede and the 246-105-FN in a 6mm Remington? 

Thank you, mph911
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 08, 2016, 03:48:50 AM
Alright. Took a lot more work than I expected. A couple of weeks ago I dropped my laptop busted it pretty good but it kept working, this weekend I uploaded everything to a new one. When I went to install my MS Office, the installation stated that I had exceed my max number of installations. Was not going to buy it again so I downloaded Apache's OpenOffice and started using it, much better too! Problem is that some of the stuff related to the new PC and OpenOffice's Calc and the references in the worksheets had to be rewritten. Anyway, I'm back up and running and the first request is ready.

NOE 266-125-FN - 6.5 Grendell (http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/data/NOE/PDF/20/266-125-FN_65Grendel.pdf)

Michael,

How about the same 266-125-FN bullet in the 6.5x55 Swede and the 246-105-FN in a 6mm Remington? 

Thank you, mph911
Sure can, will add it to the list.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 08, 2016, 03:55:39 AM
Updated List:

Pending:Completed:Link updated on 4/8/2016 at 7:45 CT
I noticed that the OpenOffice wasn't using the same name references as the I had setup in excel plus there was a bit of trash on additional pages. Correct both.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 08, 2016, 09:40:13 PM
Updated List:

Pending:Completed:
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Squigie on April 09, 2016, 06:07:19 AM
I hadn't even seen this post until today.  I don't know if it didn't show up in my "show unread posts" display, or if I simply overlooked it because it was a sticky (many sticky updates aren't worth reading, since they're often questions/answers that don't apply to me).

Anyway...

Those that I would like to see some (additional) data for, the most....
360-310-FN - .35 Whelen
357-135-RF - 9x19mm (I run the SC/HP version)
432-265-RF - .44 Mag, .444 Marlin
And the 315-90-WC - .32 H&R and .327 Federal

There's some reasonably comparable load data available for all of those combinations, though.  So if you don't want to make it a priority, it's not a big deal to me.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: GregP42 on April 10, 2016, 12:30:05 AM
Updated List:

Pending:
  • 368-280-FN - 9.3x62
  • 513-850-FN - 50 BMG
  • 266-125-RF - 6.5x55 Swede
  • 246-105-FN - 6mm Remington
Completed:
  • NOE 266-125-FN (http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/data/NOE/PDF/20/266125FN_65Grendel.pdf) - 6.5 Grendel
  • NOE 460-425-RF (http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/data/NOE/PDF/40/460425RF_4570Govt.pdf) - 45-70 Govt

Ranch Dog,

Thank you very much, now I have more ideas to play with.

Greg
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 10, 2016, 01:29:06 AM
You're welcome Gary. I always appreciate feedback as you chronograph your loads!

Updated Lists:
Pending:Alright! A weeks worth of work!


NOE - Completed:Find these at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

In that I'm unable to post multiple links within a post, I will continue to provide the web address where all the data will eventually be posted. It would be a good idea to bookmark it once you open the link.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 10, 2016, 03:00:46 PM
246-125-FN  6.5x55 Swedish notes posted.

Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Pending Data Requests:Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Typically, I'm able to complete one request a day, in the order received.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: mph911 on April 11, 2016, 06:17:46 PM
Thank you Michael,  This will keep me busy for a while.  Lots of good stuff. 
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 11, 2016, 08:43:24 PM
Thank you Michael,  This will keep me busy for a while.  Lots of good stuff.
You're Welcome! Good deal, we all need something to keep us busy and out of any trouble!  :o

Update!

246-105-FN  6mm Rem notes posted!


Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Pending Data Requests:Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Typically, I'm able to complete one request a day, in the order received.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: mph911 on April 11, 2016, 09:28:16 PM
Michael,
Thank you for the 246-105/6mm Rem data.  I have a lot of fiddling to do now.   
mph
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 11, 2016, 09:36:35 PM
Michael,
Thank you for the 246-105/6mm Rem data.  I have a lot of fiddling to do now.   
mph
You're welcome.

I made a few changes to the worksheet, just to provide a bit more info. Will detail them in the morning here.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 12, 2016, 12:45:00 PM
Update!

360-310-FN - 35 Whelen notes posted!


Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Pending Data Requests:Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Typically, I'm able to complete one request a day, in the order received.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 12, 2016, 01:15:12 PM
Michael,
Thank you for the 246-105/6mm Rem data.  I have a lot of fiddling to do now.   
mph
mph911,

Download your Load Notes sheet again. I found a small formatting error in the header of the page I updated yesterday. The corrected sheet will have today's date, 04/12/2016. There is no change to the data, just the bullet and cartridge info.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: mph911 on April 12, 2016, 02:52:07 PM
Will do Sir.  I will discard yesterday's version I printed. 
Thank you for doing this for all of us.
MPH
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 12, 2016, 08:48:55 PM
Very good! You're welcome.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Squigie on April 12, 2016, 09:21:18 PM
Thank you.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 14, 2016, 01:03:55 AM
I didn't get the next data put together today, will be back on it tomorrow. Based on a suggestion, I will now include Trail Boss data as part of the Load Notes sheet. That data requires a separate calculation but it is quite easy. Starting with the 360-310-FN data, it is included. If you would like it incorporated into an existing sheet, just let me know and I will repost it.

(http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/data/loadnotes_format.jpg)
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 15, 2016, 02:26:04 AM
Update!

357-135-RF - 9mm Luger NOE/RDO all bullet configuration notes posted!


Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Pending Data Requests:Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Typically, I'm able to complete one request a day, in the order received.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Squigie on April 15, 2016, 04:52:08 AM
Thanks again.

The minimum barrel length column represents nothing more than the (approximate) minimum barrel length required to achieve the specified velocity estimate, correct?
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 15, 2016, 11:39:27 AM
Thanks again.

The minimum barrel length column represents nothing more than the (approximate) minimum barrel length required to achieve the specified velocity estimate, correct?
You're welcome,

The minimum barrel length is the point at which the subject powder is no longer efficient. More that 20% is being blown out of the barrel unburnt. Both pressure and velocity are not valid. Those two projections will not be higher but it is doubtful they will meet their mark.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on April 15, 2016, 01:22:42 PM
Hi, I would be interested in load data for heavy, 200 grain bullets in a modern 9mm revolver (S&W 940).
In particular the 360-200-RN (38S&W) and 360-200-FN (RCBS) bullets with Vihtavouri 3N37.
Thanks :)
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 16, 2016, 02:06:18 PM
Update!

432-265-RF - 444 Marlin  notes posted! This data valid for all NOE & RD0 432-265 & 275-RF nose and lube groove configurations. The data is not valid for the FN configuration!


Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Pending Data Requests:Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Typically, I'm able to complete one request a day, in the order received.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 19, 2016, 01:11:29 PM
Update!

432-265-RF - 44 Mag  notes posted! This data valid for all NOE & RD0 432-265 & 275-RF nose and lube groove configurations. The data is not valid for the FN configuration!


Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Pending Data Requests:Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Typically, I'm able to complete one request a day, in the order received.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: dakotamar on April 20, 2016, 01:56:50 AM
Hi,
I would be interested in load data for 502 490Gr WFN   and 502  450/500/550/600Gr RF.    If there is data for H110 all the better but can try and source other powders.

thanks
Dak
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Squigie on April 20, 2016, 05:25:24 AM
I'm not seeing the 432-265 44 Mag data in either directory.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: sawzall on April 20, 2016, 06:33:07 AM
I would like to see 279-124-FN in 6.8 SPC and 270 Win. Thanks.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on April 20, 2016, 10:48:10 AM
I would be interested in loads for the 325-216-SP (325365) and the soon-to-be 325-187-RF (325323) bullets in the 8x57JRS and the 8x58RD (Swedish Remington Rolling Block).  :)
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 20, 2016, 12:35:37 PM
I'm not seeing the 432-265 44 Mag data in either directory.
It is there: http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/data/NOE/PDF/40/432265&275RF_44Mag.pdf

You might need to refresh your browser each time I add something.

Hi,
I would be interested in load data for 502 490Gr WFN   and 502  450/500/550/600Gr RF.    If there is data for H110 all the better but can try and source other powders.
Dak, what cartridge are these for?

All the others will be added to the list in the next update. I will probably add these in some sort of mix so that everyone gets helped as soon as possible. As I stated earlier in this topic, about one a day is a good as I can produce.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 20, 2016, 02:02:13 PM
Update!

315-90-WC - .32 H&R Mag  notes posted!


Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Pending Data Requests:Just a reminder, I can only have the time to generate one Load Note sheet a day. Currently 14 days in que.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Typically, I'm able to complete one request a day, in the order received.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 20, 2016, 02:13:10 PM
I would be interested in loads for the 325-216-SP (325365) and the soon-to-be 325-187-RF (325323) bullets in the 8x57JRS and the 8x58RD (Swedish Remington Rolling Block).  :)

Onkel link,

Concerning the 8X57JRS; I have the 8X57I, IR, IRS, PCC, R 360, & Mauser.

Concerning the 8X58RD; I have the 8X58R Sauer & 8X58RD (Danish Krag).

If your cartridge isn't one of those that I have I will need a cartridge drawing. If you find it online, just post the link. Also need the standard rate of twist used with the cartridge. Thanks.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on April 20, 2016, 04:31:52 PM
Yes, the 8x57IRS is the same as the JRS, and the 8x58RD Danish Krag is also right for the Swedish Remington.
Thanks   
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 20, 2016, 04:34:58 PM
Yes, the 8x57IRS is the same as the JRS, and the 8x58RD Danish Krag is also right for the Swedish Remington.
Thanks
Good deal, thanks for the quick reply.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Squigie on April 20, 2016, 07:18:47 PM
Thanks for the additional data, and thanks for the link to the .44 Mag data.  Next time, I'll try clearing the browser cache.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 21, 2016, 01:35:22 PM
Update!

315-90-WC - 327 Federal Mag  notes posted!


Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Pending Data Requests:Just a reminder, I can only have the time to generate one Load Note sheet a day. Currently 8 days in the que.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Typically, I'm able to complete one request a day, in the order received.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Squigie on April 21, 2016, 09:41:43 PM
That should do it for me.  Thanks again.

And, oh boy, there's some screaming hot load data on the .327 Federal sheet.  My wadcutter alloy would never stand up to that, and several ballisticians have suggested never pushing "soft" bullets (even some jacketed) that hard in a revolver, anyway (it seems to cause forcing cone damage in .327 Federal, .460 S&W, and some .454 Casulls).  But I do appreciate the data.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: GregP42 on April 22, 2016, 03:33:40 AM
How about 412-237-SWC in .41 special?
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Closey on April 22, 2016, 08:03:34 AM
I am interested in the 8mm data previously requested but, if possible, I would also like to see data for the NOE 339-230 RF for the 8X58RD Swedish Rolling Block and also the 8x56R Austrian M95.
Thank you for taking the time to do this project Ranch Dog.
Closey
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 22, 2016, 12:18:10 PM
Hi, I would be interested in load data for heavy, 200 grain bullets in a modern 9mm revolver (S&W 940).
In particular the 360-200-RN (38S&W) and 360-200-FN (RCBS) bullets with Vihtavouri 3N37.
Thanks :)
Onkel, I'm having problems generating the data for the long bullets within the confines of the 9mm Luger 1.169 MAX OAL. Your choice of 3N37 is not in the results. From my calculations, these bullets would need an OAL of 1.90". Would this fit within the confines of the 9mm Luger Cylinder?

I've already spent about an hour trying to make this work so until I hear back from you I'm going to move on to the next bullet/cartridge in the lineup.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 22, 2016, 01:28:08 PM
Update!

279-124-FN 6.8 SPC notes posted!


Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Requested additional information from poster, find my reply above:Pending Data Requests:Just a reminder, I can only have the time to generate one Load Note sheet a day. Currently 7 days in the que.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Typically, I'm able to complete one request a day, in the order received.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 22, 2016, 01:34:46 PM
That should do it for me.  Thanks again.

And, oh boy, there's some screaming hot load data on the .327 Federal sheet.  My wadcutter alloy would never stand up to that, and several ballisticians have suggested never pushing "soft" bullets (even some jacketed) that hard in a revolver, anyway (it seems to cause forcing cone damage in .327 Federal, .460 S&W, and some .454 Casulls).  But I do appreciate the data.

You're welcome!

Yeah, I understand what you mean. The thing to remember is that this data represents pressure benchmarks and in that most people don't shoot with pressure trace equipment, the velocities that the pressure generates so that you can tell if the load is going to get you into trouble. In no way does it represent "pet" or favorite loads. That would be impossible for me to do as I don't shoot a most of the stuff that has been listed in this topic.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 22, 2016, 01:38:34 PM
I am interested in the 8mm data previously requested but, if possible, I would also like to see data for the NOE 339-230 RF for the 8X58RD Swedish Rolling Block and also the 8x56R Austrian M95.
Thank you for taking the time to do this project Ranch Dog.
Closey
My head is seeing a lot of little 8mm's swimming around right now  :o

I picked out one you listed but could you list exactly what you are looking for, like the list that I generate: bullet & cartridge. One line for each please as this can be a bit difficult to understand. The firearm isn't important because I'm not generating the data specific to it, only bullet and cartridge.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on April 22, 2016, 05:48:03 PM

Onkel, I'm having problems generating the data for the long bullets within the confines of the 9mm Luger 1.169 MAX OAL. Your choice of 3N37 is not in the results. From my calculations, these bullets would need an OAL of 1.90". Would this fit within the confines of the 9mm Luger Cylinder?

The cylinder is about 1.57.
I have tried the Ideal 358315 (206gn) at 1.30, without GC, and with 3.0gn 3N37 it seems to work, but I have no pressure measuring equipment.

360-200-RN (38S&W): I would figure maximum seating depth to be about .30 with the plain base, so I would have estimated an OAL at around 1.31.

360-200-FN GC (RCBS): If used without GC it could possibly be seated to the crimp groove, and in that case OAL could be about 1.26, maybe less.

I have not tried these bullets so I don't know if it will work.


Below is how the 358315 looks at 1.30 OAL.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 23, 2016, 01:12:22 PM
Onkel, that picture is some crazy looking stuff. Thanks for your response and patience as your reply caused me to dig a little deeper and I found the reason I could not generate the data. My new calc database, dropped the MS products, keys slightly different than excel so the LoadNotes sheet was picking up a different 360-200 with a much longer nose. I corrected that and also added some conditional formatting that turns the Max Cartridge OAL to Bold Red if it is exceeded by the Min OAL the data is calculated by.

If your actual OAL exceeds the Min OAL there are no worries as the LoadNotes is conservative. LoadNotes should never be used if your OAL is less than the Min OAL.

Thanks again for your patience!

Oh! 3N37 was in the results!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 23, 2016, 01:16:43 PM
I am interested in the 8mm data previously requested but, if possible, I would also like to see data for the NOE 339-230 RF for the 8X58RD Swedish Rolling Block and also the 8x56R Austrian M95.
Thank you for taking the time to do this project Ranch Dog.
Closey
My head is seeing a lot of little 8mm's swimming around right now  :o

I picked out one you listed but could you list exactly what you are looking for, like the list that I generate: bullet & cartridge. One line for each please as this can be a bit difficult to understand. The firearm isn't important because I'm not generating the data specific to it, only bullet and cartridge.
Please disregard Closey, I think I figured it out just check the list if you would please.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 23, 2016, 01:17:29 PM
Update!

360-200-RN (38S&W) & 360-200-FN (RCBS) 9mm Luger notes posted!


Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Requested additional information from poster, find my reply above:Pending Data Requests:Just a reminder, I can only have the time to generate one Load Note sheet a day. Currently 8 days in the que.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Typically, I'm able to complete one request a day, in the order received.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on April 23, 2016, 05:28:26 PM
Great :)

Thanks for your work! The data looks promising. And I do like 3N37, it's a very versatile powder.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Closey on April 24, 2016, 07:59:56 AM
Thanks Ranchdog you have my requests correct in the list, sorry for the confusion there.
Closey
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 25, 2016, 02:01:45 PM
Update!

279-124-FN 270 Win Load Notes posted!


Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Requested additional information from poster, find my quoted reply to your request:Pending Data Requests:Just a reminder, I can only have the time to generate one Load Note sheet a day. Currently 7 days in the que.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Typically, I'm able to complete one request a day, in the order received.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Cowboy_Dan on April 26, 2016, 07:56:02 AM
I would like to see the 314-152-RN in 7.62x54mmR and the 315-103-SWC in 7.62x25 please and thank you for doing this.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 26, 2016, 12:55:26 PM
Update!

325-216-SP 8x57IRS & 325-216-SP 8x58RD Load Notes posted!


Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Requested additional information from poster, find my quoted reply to your request:Pending Data Requests:Just a reminder, I can only have the time to generate one Load Note sheet a day. Currently 5 days in the que.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Typically, I'm able to complete one request a day, in the order received.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 26, 2016, 12:58:00 PM
I would like to see the 314-152-RN in 7.62x54mmR and the 315-103-SWC in 7.62x25 please and thank you for doing this.
You're welcome Cowboy Dan, they are added to the list.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 26, 2016, 01:00:41 PM
Yes, the 8x57IRS is the same as the JRS, and the 8x58RD Danish Krag is also right for the Swedish Remington.
Thanks
Good deal, thanks for the quick reply.
Onkel, please look the Load Notes over real good for the both the 8x57IRS and 8X58RD. I used the specs within Quick Load as trying to find an agreement from other sources was tough. I would appreciate any feedback you might have.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on April 26, 2016, 05:48:20 PM
8x57IRS: I don't have any experience loading this cartridge, so I can't say much about it. Generally the rimmed 8x57IRS is loaded to a lower pressure than the rimless 8x57IS Mauser because the former is used in combination guns and the latter usually in Mauser actions, that's about what I know.

8x58RD: The loads seem low for a max, but I see the Pmax loads noted as 23.2 KPSI, while Pressure Limits are stated as NMP 23.2 and Pmax 26.1 in the heading.

I don't have much loading data, but the Norwegian "Ladeboken" is as far as I know widely accepted, and below is an excerpt (found on the internet, not mine) for a 196gn jacketed bullet and Vihtavouri N135 and N140 powders for comparison.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 26, 2016, 06:25:41 PM
8x58RD: The loads seem low for a max, but I see the Pmax loads noted as 23.2 KPSI, while Pressure Limits are stated as NMP 23.2 and Pmax 26.1 in the heading.
The NMP vs. Pmax is covered in the Pressure Notes. In a nutshell pressure has excursions just like velocity. Loads are generated to NMP with this consideration so that none of the excursions exceed Pmax. The reloading companies with their data do the same, they just don't tell you about it.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on April 26, 2016, 06:58:38 PM
Okay. It's on the safe side then. It's no problem anyway. Target loads don't need to be as powerful as hunting loads.
Great to have some data. Thanks :)
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 27, 2016, 11:47:22 AM
How about 412-237-SWC in .41 special?
Do you have a cartridge drawing for the 41 Spl. I thought it more common than I've found. I can come up with nothing. ???
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 27, 2016, 11:59:42 AM
I am interested in the 8mm data previously requested but, if possible, I would also like to see data for the NOE 339-230 RF for the 8X58RD Swedish Rolling Block and also the 8x56R Austrian M95.
Thank you for taking the time to do this project Ranch Dog.
Closey

Need some more help. I find three 8X56Rs; an RM 30, RM 30, and an RM Port. Krop. Any advice.

Never noticed the Frankenstein bullet, that is one nice looking bullet!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 27, 2016, 12:21:58 PM
I am interested in the 8mm data previously requested but, if possible, I would also like to see data for the NOE 339-230 RF for the 8X58RD Swedish Rolling Block and also the 8x56R Austrian M95.
Thank you for taking the time to do this project Ranch Dog.
Closey

Need some more help. I find three 8X56Rs; an RM 30, RM 30, and an RM Port. Krop. Any advice.

Never noticed the Frankenstein bullet, that is one nice looking bullet!

Okay, I guess I'm running so far behind that I cannot look ahead. I will need to start vetting the requests a bit better.

With that said, I'm not sure how to make a .339 bullet down a .323 groove?
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on April 27, 2016, 01:13:10 PM
Requested additional information from poster, find my quoted reply to your request:
  • 325-187-RF 8x57IRS - Requested Bullet Drawing From NOE
  • 325-187-RF 8x58RD - Requested Bullet Drawing From NOE

This is the drawing from the current group buy. It is offered in three different sizes, but only the .321 shown. The .325 has the various diameters upped by .004.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 27, 2016, 03:03:43 PM
This is the drawing from the current group buy. It is offered in three different sizes, but only the .321 shown. The .325 has the various diameters upped by .004.

Thanks but to run the calculations I need more data than the drawing supplies. Swede and I use the same bullet design software so I will need for him to send me his updated database. I sent him an email but will call him today.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 27, 2016, 03:04:26 PM
Update!

502-450-RF, 502-500, 502-550, 502-600-RF 50S&W Load Notes posted!


Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Bullets waiting NOE database update:Bullets waiting additional user informationPending Data Requests:Just a reminder, I can only have the time to generate one Load Note sheet a day. Currently 2 days in the que.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Typically, I'm able to complete one request a day, in the order received.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 27, 2016, 09:19:27 PM
This is the drawing from the current group buy. It is offered in three different sizes, but only the .321 shown. The .325 has the various diameters upped by .004.

Thanks but to run the calculations I need more data than the drawing supplies. Swede and I use the same bullet design software so I will need for him to send me his updated database. I sent him an email but will call him today.
Swede sent me the file so I will knock this one out tonight sometime.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: GregP42 on April 28, 2016, 12:14:18 AM
Michael,

Case is 1.160, I do not have the OAL but it would be from the crimp groove on the SWC.

Greg


Update!


Bullets waiting additional user information
  • 412-237-SWC 41 Spl - need 41 Spl case length and cartridge OAL
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 28, 2016, 12:17:01 AM
Michael,

Case is 1.160, I do not have the OAL but it would be from the crimp groove on the SWC.

Greg


Update!


Bullets waiting additional user information
  • 412-237-SWC 41 Spl - need 41 Spl case length and cartridge OAL
Thanks, I 'll get it out.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 28, 2016, 06:07:15 AM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Note for the 325-187-RF: The primary drawing for this design is the 321-185-RF. As the comments on the Load Notes indicate, the data is valid for all diameters offered as long as your choice of  bullet diameter is within .003" of your firearm's groove diameter.

Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Pending Data Requests:Just a reminder, I can only have the time to generate one Load Note sheet a day. Currently 3 days in the que.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Typically, I'm able to complete one request a day, in the order received.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
I had some hogs tear my yard up last night and given the holes and tracks I figured they were nice ones. I decided to stay up and knock some of these Note sheets out in that Swede refreshed the database I have plus the moon wouldn't hit the horizon until a minute after midnight. I just finished the 412-237-SWC 41 Spl at 11:58 and picked up my Rossi R92 chambered in 480 Ruger and told my wife that I was going out to find the diggers.

As I reached for the door I could see four large hogs entering my yard about 80 yards out. I quietly went out to the barn so I could shoot off the rear tire of my tractor. That TLC478-375-RF just hammered the heck out of one! Nice night's work, time for bed.

(http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/Hunting/2016/hog_04282016_01.jpg)

Picture is fuzzy but the lighted building immediately behind me is the the barn.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on April 28, 2016, 12:45:27 PM
Looks lika a happy ending to the day!

Thank you for posting the data, now it's just to wait for the molds  ;D
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 28, 2016, 02:22:51 PM
Looks lika a happy ending to the day!

Thank you for posting the data, now it's just to wait for the molds  ;D
Thanks, maybe a good start to the new day!


You're welcome concerning the data and please feel free to offer feedback from your shooting once you have that mold.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 28, 2016, 02:26:36 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Note for the 315-103-SWC: As the comments on the Load Notes indicate,The base design at .315 is inappropriate for the spec .308 groove of the 7.62x25. The data is valid as long as your choice of  bullet diameter is within .003" of your firearm's groove diameter.

Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Pending Data Requests:Just a reminder, I can only have the time to generate one Load Note sheet a day. Currently 2 days in the que.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Typically, I'm able to complete one request a day, in the order received.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: okie44 on April 28, 2016, 02:53:43 PM
Looks like a good start!

When you get a minute how about the 412-360-FN in the 405 Winchester.

Thanks for all the info.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 28, 2016, 03:25:21 PM
Looks like a good start!

When you get a minute how about the 412-360-FN in the 405 Winchester.

Thanks for all the info.
You're welcome. I added your request to the list.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Closey on April 29, 2016, 11:14:02 AM
I am interested in the 8mm data previously requested but, if possible, I would also like to see data for the NOE 339-230 RF for the 8X58RD Swedish Rolling Block and also the 8x56R Austrian M95.
Thank you for taking the time to do this project Ranch Dog.
Closey

Need some more help. I find three 8X56Rs; an RM 30, RM 30, and an RM Port. Krop. Any advice.

Never noticed the Frankenstein bullet, that is one nice looking bullet!

Okay, I guess I'm running so far behind that I cannot look ahead. I will need to start vetting the requests a bit better.

With that said, I'm not sure how to make a .339 bullet down a .323 groove?

RD, my Austrian 8X56R has a .332 groove  and some rifles are even bigger.  Lee dies for this rifle are listed as 8X56R Hungarian if that is any help.
Closey
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 29, 2016, 11:55:07 AM
RD, my Austrian 8X56R has a .332 groove  and some rifles are even bigger.  Lee dies for this rifle are listed as 8X56R Hungarian if that is any help.
QL has a 8x56R M30S (Solohurn-Hungarian) with a .329" groove. Even with your .332" groove and a bullet .003" that I'm still .004" short of the running the 339-230-RF and providing valid data. In that your groove diameter is so far off the spec, the cartridge would need to be redrawn which would require your bore diameter as well and the H2O capacity of a fired case. The bullet would need to be redrawn too at .335, it would be possible to size it to this, but this is kind of getting beyond the scope of what I'm doing here as I would not post this data, only send it directly for you.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 29, 2016, 12:17:14 PM
Looks like a good start!

When you get a minute how about the 412-360-FN in the 405 Winchester.

Thanks for all the info.

(http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/images/1111-217-412%20360Gr%20FN%20GC.jpg)
The drawing of this bullet is not in the database of the software NOE and I use, the image on the store page is from some other draw program. If you can tell me what your cartridge OAL is, reference the drawing above, I still can do the calculations.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 29, 2016, 12:20:07 PM
I'm going to drop the 502-490-WF 500 S&W request as the bullet is not in the design software nor is it listed in the store.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Jsilva on April 29, 2016, 01:51:25 PM
Hello,
Any chance for a set of data for 502-375-SP for the 500 S&W magnum.
Thank you
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: okie44 on April 29, 2016, 02:28:36 PM
Looks like a good start!

When you get a minute how about the 412-360-FN in the 405 Winchester.

Thanks for all the info.

(http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/images/1111-217-412%20360Gr%20FN%20GC.jpg)
The drawing of this bullet is not in the database of the software NOE and I use, the image on the store page is from some other draw program. If you can tell me what your cartridge OAL is, reference the drawing above, I still can do the calculations.

OAL 3.18"

Thanks
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 30, 2016, 07:55:57 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Pending Data Requests:Just a reminder, I can only have the time to generate one Load Note sheet a day. .

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Typically, I'm able to complete one request a day, in the order received.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: okie44 on April 30, 2016, 08:35:52 PM
Thanks Ranch Dog!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 30, 2016, 08:46:34 PM
You're welcome!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Jsilva on May 01, 2016, 05:47:41 AM
Hello Ranch Dog,
Sorry for asking, I located and bookmarked the data for the 502-375 mold in 500 S&W. I did have a question about a couple powders not listed.
Can you suggest where I should start for using Accurate 1680, 5744, and Alliant's new Power Pro 300 MP?
Thanks in advance!
Justin
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on May 01, 2016, 01:37:09 PM
Hello Ranch Dog,
Sorry for asking, I located and bookmarked the data for the 502-375 mold in 500 S&W. I did have a question about a couple powders not listed.
Can you suggest where I should start for using Accurate 1680, 5744, and Alliant's new Power Pro 300 MP?
Thanks in advance!
Justin
Sure Justin, here you go: http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/data/images/502375SP_500S&W_supplement.jpg

Alliant Power Pro 300MP is not in the QL database. The reason the other two were not included is that I run based on the manufacturer's classification of their powders. In the case of these two, Accurate lists them as rifle powders. 1680 would have not come up either way because of it's efficiency, 30% of it is being blown out the barrel unburnt. 5744 hit the cutoff of 80% burnt. Sorry I could not help with the newer Alliant powder.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Closey on May 01, 2016, 05:21:29 PM
RD, my Austrian 8X56R has a .332 groove  and some rifles are even bigger.  Lee dies for this rifle are listed as 8X56R Hungarian if that is any help.
QL has a 8x56R M30S (Solohurn-Hungarian) with a .329" groove. Even with your .332" groove and a bullet .003" that I'm still .004" short of the running the 339-230-RF and providing valid data. In that your groove diameter is so far off the spec, the cartridge would need to be redrawn which would require your bore diameter as well and the H2O capacity of a fired case. The bullet would need to be redrawn too at .335, it would be possible to size it to this, but this is kind of getting beyond the scope of what I'm doing here as I would not post this data, only send it directly for you.

I couldn't ask you to go to all that trouble RD so please scratch  my requests from your list.
Many thanks,
Closey 
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: astroturf3040 on May 03, 2016, 11:55:25 PM
Hello looking for  NOE K31 buillet loads for 7.5x55 Swiss. Thanks
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on May 04, 2016, 03:09:43 AM
Hello looking for  NOE K31 buillet loads for 7.5x55 Swiss. Thanks
Okay but a question. The 7.5x55 is listed as having a .306" groove, what are you sizing the 311-180-FN to?
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Guy_From_Michigan on May 04, 2016, 03:24:49 AM
Off topic but may help. If you call Microsoft and tell them you are replacing a PC they will give you the code to reinstall the Office. I had to do it when they forced me to upgrade from my Xp computer to a new laptop.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on May 04, 2016, 11:07:50 AM
Off topic but may help. If you call Microsoft and tell them you are replacing a PC they will give you the code to reinstall the Office. I had to do it when they forced me to upgrade from my Xp computer to a new laptop.

I appreciate the info but the switch has already been made and I much prefer OpenOffice.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: mph911 on May 04, 2016, 01:17:03 PM
Good Morning Michael,

I would like to try the TLC313-150-RF RG4 cavity GC (RD) in the 30-30 and the 7.62 X 54r if you have time.  I like that big hollow point.  Speaking of big hollow point, I'd even try the TLC357-135-RF RG4 cavity GC (RD) in the 357 magnum. 

Like many others, gotta keep several projects going at the same time...

Best,
Mike
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: SSG Oldfart on May 04, 2016, 09:06:31 PM
Are you working up all NOE designs or just the Ranch Dog designs?
How About the 246-46gr in 243,as a target and small game load.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on May 05, 2016, 01:45:00 AM
Okay, getting a number of request that are not easy calculations because the bullets don't fit the applications. As a bullet exceeds .003" of the groove spec, the numbers that I'm able to provide are not valid. QL is capable of the calculations but it is required that both barrel and cartridge be modified to the user's specifics and if the bullet is to be resized the same as well. Unfortunately, this is beyond the scope of what I'm doing here. So I will not be able to provide data for the following requests:So here is the current list:
Are you working up all NOE designs or just the Ranch Dog designs?
How About the 246-46gr in 243,as a target and small game load.
I'm working on both.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on May 05, 2016, 12:15:19 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Pending Data Requests:Just a reminder, I can only have the time to generate one Load Note sheet a day. There is a 2 days delay in the que.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: mph911 on May 05, 2016, 01:25:29 PM
Agreed, perfectly understandable.  I'm thankful for what you can provide.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: AlvinYork on May 05, 2016, 02:18:39 PM
For those of you who have requests that are a bit involved you might want to consider picking up a copy of Quickload which includes its awesome companion Quicktarget. The last I saw it was around the price of a brass RG4 noe mould. There's a lot you can do with it. If you do get it, start slow. It's a bit intimidating but after you use it (then get frustrated and resort to reading the manual ) you'll be quite happy with it. Then you could move on to Quicktarget which is a separate module that reads the current data in your Quickload screens to perform the ballastic calculations.
  To sum it up, it's worth the price.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on May 05, 2016, 08:47:36 PM
For those of you who have requests that are a bit involved you might want to consider picking up a copy of Quickload which includes its awesome companion Quicktarget. The last I saw it was around the price of a brass RG4 noe mould. There's a lot you can do with it. If you do get it, start slow. It's a bit intimidating but after you use it (then get frustrated and resort to reading the manual ) you'll be quite happy with it. Then you could move on to Quicktarget which is a separate module that reads the current data in your Quickload screens to perform the ballastic calculations.
  To sum it up, it's worth the price.
No doubt I agree. When I moved into cast bullets right away I knew I needed something more than what any other source could provide. QuickLoad isn't as hard as if first appears. I took my time and worked through the user manual and that in itself is quite a lesson in internal ballistics. I know it has saved me a lot of effort on things that don't work and has helped me focus my loading on what does and that has more than paid for the software. Really, my work here is a demonstration of what the potential is and I hope it wets your appetite for the specifics of your handloading.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on May 05, 2016, 09:52:08 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Pending Data Requests:Just a reminder, I can only have the time to generate one Load Note sheet a day. .

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on May 06, 2016, 12:38:07 PM
Are you working up all NOE designs or just the Ranch Dog designs?
How About the 246-46gr in 243,as a target and small game load.
Sorry SSG, I was not able to generate any useful data using the 245-46-FN & the 243 Win. The bullet size vs. the case capacity just doesn't work out within the template framework I have. It would take a bit of poking around with the powders you have in mind and specific velocities.  The velocities my templates were generating were from 2500 to 3500 with the little BB.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: mph911 on May 07, 2016, 02:58:38 PM
Thank you Sir for posting those loads.  Good advice about the software.  A reasonable investment to keep us safe.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on May 10, 2016, 04:29:47 PM
325-216-SP loaded in 8x58RD with 35.1 grains Vihtavouri N135, at min OAL vs seated out.
Works fine, no accuracy tests performed as of yet.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on May 11, 2016, 12:35:39 AM
Thanks for posting the images, those are some awesome missiles! Looking forward to the range report.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on May 15, 2016, 12:38:03 AM
If it is possible, I would be interested in load data for the SC357-135-RF (RD) bullet in the 9mm Browning Long (9x20mm).

Thanks
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on May 16, 2016, 01:14:15 PM
If it is possible, I would be interested in load data for the SC357-135-RF (RD) bullet in the 9mm Browning Long (9x20mm).

Thanks
Sure is! See: http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/data/   Look in the RDO & 30 directory.

I've got all the RDO designs updated to the new format through the 30 calibers. The data is for the various cartridges I targeted the bullets for. If you have another need, just ask and I will see if it works. I should get all the 40 calibers dones this week as nothing but rain in the forecast so my ranch work will be curtailed. After that I will work on an actual website that will make the search for data a bit easier and then start on data for the NOE group buys.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on May 17, 2016, 10:00:47 PM
Thanks!  :)

Loaded up some, but haven't had a chance to get to the range yet.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: FLYCUTTER on May 18, 2016, 02:28:44 AM
Dog, thanks for putting all this info out to all of us guys. Can you work up something for 338-06  with a NOE 340-320 GC. FN. 201 gr.
and 339-230 GR. NOE GC.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on May 18, 2016, 01:08:53 PM
Dog, thanks for putting all this info out to all of us guys. Can you work up something for 338-06  with a NOE 340-320 GC. FN. 201 gr.
and 339-230 GR. NOE GC.
Yeah, I can do this if you "answer me this":
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: FLYCUTTER on May 18, 2016, 03:43:49 PM
Yes I am  referring to the 338-06 A Square.  f you look at the NOE bullet drawings, page 4, second and third from the bottom of the page, you will see the boolits I am talking about. NOE 340-320 GC. FN., 201 gr. and the Frankenstein boolit 338-230 gr.  Thanks Dog for your quick response.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on May 18, 2016, 08:01:12 PM
Yes I am  referring to the 338-06 A Square.  f you look at the NOE bullet drawings, page 4, second and third from the bottom of the page, you will see the boolits I am talking about. NOE 340-320 GC. FN., 201 gr. and the Frankenstein boolit 338-230 gr.  Thanks Dog for your quick response.
Thanks, got it.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: jwt on May 19, 2016, 01:38:30 AM
Do you have load data for the 279-160-FN2 GC in a 270 Winchester?
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: jwt on May 19, 2016, 01:45:48 AM
I would also like load data for the NOE 432-290-FN in a 444 Marlin.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on May 19, 2016, 01:52:41 AM
Do you have load data for the 279-160-FN2 GC in a 270 Winchester?
Not yet. I show a 279-156-FN that weighs in with gas check at 165-grains, 161 without. Is this the bullet?

(http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/data/NOE/bullets/20/279-156-FN_GC.jpg)
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on May 19, 2016, 01:58:50 AM
I would also like load data for the NOE 432-290-FN in a 444 Marlin.
Have it on the list as well.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: jwt on May 19, 2016, 03:43:06 AM
Do you have load data for the 279-160-FN2 GC in a 270 Winchester?
Not yet. I show a 279-156-FN that weighs in with gas check at 165-grains, 161 without. Is this the bullet?

(http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/data/NOE/bullets/20/279-156-FN_GC.jpg)

That's it.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on May 19, 2016, 05:25:45 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Pending Data Requests:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day. There currently is no delay if you need data.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on May 19, 2016, 06:11:21 PM
I would also like load data for the NOE 432-290-FN in a 444 Marlin.
Have it on the list as well.
I ran the data for the bullet/cartridge, see: http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

The bullet is designed for the 44 Mag & 44 Spl and the nose is too long for the 444 Marlin. Using the crimp groove the cartridge overall length with the brass trimmed to the minimum length is .141" too long, 2.611" vs. Max of 2.570".

To make the bullet work with the 444 Marlin, the bullet must be seated on the top band, leaving the crimp groove unusable. It might not be possible to provide a crimp depending on your alloy. Make sure that the OAL does not get shorter in the magazine tube or chamber.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: LongPoint on May 24, 2016, 05:52:10 PM
Michael,
 Your efforts on this project are greatly appreciated.

 I am blessed with a 6 cavity 454-265-RF mold. I bought it from your website some time back and don't know what firearm it was designed for. My Blackhawk REALLY likes this bullet and I thought you might give us some insight and Load Notes on this design. I am sure there are a few molds out there and those folks could probably use the info also. Thanks
Marvin
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on May 24, 2016, 10:12:31 PM
Michael,
 Your efforts on this project are greatly appreciated.

 I am blessed with a 6 cavity 454-265-RF mold. I bought it from your website some time back and don't know what firearm it was designed for. My Blackhawk REALLY likes this bullet and I thought you might give us some insight and Load Notes on this design. I am sure there are a few molds out there and those folks could probably use the info also. Thanks
Marvin
Thanks for your kind word but I didn't design a TLC454-265-RF. I had a TLC454-290-RF?

I also so a bunch of odd ball molds that I acquired from Lee. They did quite a house cleaning and asked me if I was interested in any of them. I told them I would take anything that was a "TL" and there were quite a few interesting designs. Do you think this would be one of them?
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: LongPoint on May 24, 2016, 11:38:42 PM
This is not a TL design. It is plain base and has one single standard lube groove. Another member on the CB forum ran a thread about it, I went to RDO and purchased it with 1 left in stock.  Hand written on the box is { RanchDog 454-265-RF} I have quite a few of your molds, 2 cavity as well as 6 cavity. This is an odd one for sure. It looks to be a full grown version of their 358-158-RF, minus the bevel base The postage on the box is 06/04/2012, so yes it has been a while. Thanks.
Marvin
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on May 26, 2016, 12:43:06 PM
It does sound like one of those that I got from Lee. I knew that I bought any TL molds but I must have bought others as well. At one time Lee always cut 2 extra molds from every special order but they ended that policy and had quite a stockpile on the shelves. It all started when I asked a contact of mine if they had any 25 Auto molds on the shelf. Well they did, they had two. Next thing I know is that I have large boxes of all kinds of stuff arriving at the ranch!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Nrut on June 09, 2016, 12:54:15 AM
Hi Ranch Dog,
I would like load data for the NOE 288-132gr. FN (7mm Thor) in the following cartridges..
1. 708 w/18" & 22" barrels
2. 7BR w/14" barrel
3. 7TCU w/20" barrel

Thanks
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on June 09, 2016, 12:27:07 PM
Hi Ranch Dog,
I would like load data for the NOE 288-132gr. FN (7mm Thor) in the following cartridges..
1. 708 w/18" & 22" barrels
2. 7BR w/14" barrel
3. 7TCU w/20" barrel

Thanks
You're welcome Nrut.

The 7mm-08 is done and posted at: http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/data/NOE/PDF/

I will get the other two the next two mornings in a row. My load note sheets don't figure the velocity for a 14" barrel but it will be approximately 88% of that computed for a 22" barrel.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on June 11, 2016, 12:38:36 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Pending Data Requests:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: GregP42 on June 12, 2016, 02:35:08 PM
Michael,

How about data for 6.5x284 and 6.5 TC/U with the 266-125-fn when you get a chance please.

Thank you for your time and hard work on this,
Greg
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: jwt on June 14, 2016, 01:45:29 AM
I would be interested in the:

NOE 225-55-FN MX3-22 in a 22-250
NOE 418-350-RF in a 416 Rigby
NOE 460-480-RN in a 458WinMag
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on June 15, 2016, 01:18:20 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: GregP42 on June 16, 2016, 12:23:34 AM
Thank you Michael,

Now to just get my ISP to see your server tonight.

Greg
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on June 16, 2016, 12:25:27 AM
My server is down right now, don't really know what the issue is.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on June 16, 2016, 01:24:18 AM
My server is down right now, don't really know what the issue is.
It is back up.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on June 16, 2016, 09:00:29 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on June 16, 2016, 09:04:54 PM
I would be interested in the:

NOE 225-55-FN MX3-22 in a 22-250

jwt, didn't have any luck within the confines of my calculator producing the data for the 225-55-FN MX3.

A full case of Trail Boss, 12.2-grains is 2143 FPS at 33.1K PSI. That is the only useful info I could provide.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on June 17, 2016, 12:57:30 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on June 25, 2016, 07:52:58 PM
Dog, if you can find the time, could you do the 432-277-SWC Hollow Base Keith in .44 Mag/Special and 360-172-SWC Hollow Base Keith in .357 Mag/.38 Special?
Thanks for your work.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on June 25, 2016, 08:12:20 PM
Dog, if you can find the time, could you do the 432-277-SWC Hollow Base Keith in .44 Mag/Special and 360-172-SWC Hollow Base Keith in .357 Mag/.38 Special?
Thanks for your work.
You bet & you're welcome.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on June 28, 2016, 01:08:19 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on June 30, 2016, 10:20:08 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on July 01, 2016, 07:21:23 PM
Great, thanks!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on July 01, 2016, 07:50:14 PM
And while you are at it, I would be interested in the 358-124-TC too, that I just ordered for the 9mm.  ;D
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on July 01, 2016, 10:00:51 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on July 01, 2016, 10:01:56 PM
Great, thanks!

And while you are at it, I would be interested in the 358-124-TC too, that I just ordered for the 9mm.  ;D
You're welcome & great looking cartridge!

I just posted the remainder of your requests, hope you have a great 4th!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on July 01, 2016, 10:07:40 PM
I just posted the remainder of your requests, hope you have a great 4th!
That's really quick! And I wish the same to you, thanks!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on July 08, 2016, 10:23:56 PM
I just ordered some more molds, so now I need some more data... ;D

SC325-180-RF GC HP (Ranchdog) in 8x57IRS and 8x58RD.
360-150-RN in .38 Special and .357 Magnum.

Sorry about that  8)

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on July 09, 2016, 12:03:23 PM
I'll get them knocked out.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: mph911 on July 11, 2016, 01:38:16 PM
Good Morning, Just bought a couple of new moulds, could I please get these on the log?
1. New 270-149-RN 270469 in the 6.5x55 Swede, and
2. The 379-279-FN 379449 in the 38-55 Win.
Thanks in advance, mph
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Paper Puncher on July 11, 2016, 06:14:24 PM
Ranch Dog

New to the site and NOE (OK new to casting also LOL).  I took advantage of the 4th of July sale and picked up a 358-128 SWC BB to try out in my 9mm.   I am also on the list for the next run of the 402-150 (for son's 40 SW).  If you could add these to the load notes when you get time I would appreciate it.

Thanks
Steve
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on July 11, 2016, 10:03:37 PM
Okay got them all listed. I was tied up most of the day, will try to get the first out this evening.

Update!

Load Notes Posted:

Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on July 13, 2016, 05:10:42 PM
Sorry about the delay, was tied up on Monday and Tuesday

Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: mph911 on July 13, 2016, 07:17:09 PM
RD,
Thank you for the load notes on the 270-149 in the 6.5x55 Swede.  It is much appreciated. 
mph911
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on July 13, 2016, 08:22:19 PM
RD,
Thank you for the load notes on the 270-149 in the 6.5x55 Swede.  It is much appreciated. 
mph911
You're welcome!

Gon'na try to get another out tonight as I will be in Houston tomorrow.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on July 14, 2016, 09:02:00 PM
Got them all posted...
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: mph911 on July 15, 2016, 12:10:09 AM
RD,
Thank you for the info on the 38-55 Win.  Quality wkend time coming up. 
mph911
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Paper Puncher on July 16, 2016, 12:48:10 AM
Ranch Dog

Thanks for the information on the 358-128-SWC 9mm Luger and the 402-150-FNHP 40 S&W.  Appreciate you putting the time into this.

Steve
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on July 17, 2016, 05:16:34 PM
SC325-180-RF GC HP (Ranch Dog) in 8x57IRS and 8x58RD.

360-150-RN in .38 Special and .357 Magnum.

Thanks in advance.

Just in case you forgot about them  ;)
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on July 18, 2016, 12:10:16 PM
SC325-180-RF GC HP (Ranch Dog) in 8x57IRS and 8x58RD.

360-150-RN in .38 Special and .357 Magnum.

Thanks in advance.

Just in case you forgot about them  ;)
I did, thanks. I will get to them.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on July 21, 2016, 12:41:19 PM
I'm still working on it but just been tied up a bit with other things at home.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on July 22, 2016, 03:27:02 AM
SC325-180-RF GC HP (Ranch Dog) in 8x57IRS and 8x58RD.

360-150-RN in .38 Special and .357 Magnum.

Thanks in advance.

Just in case you forgot about them  ;)
The drawing database Al sent me does not have a "SC325-180-RF GC HP (Ranch Dog) but does have a "SC323-180-RF GC HP (Ranch Dog)" so I ran that. As long as your groove diameter is within .003" of what your bullet is sized to, the data will be valid.

I will be out all day tomorrow but I will finish these up over the weekend.
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on July 23, 2016, 10:16:36 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on July 23, 2016, 10:21:24 PM
SC325-180-RF GC HP (Ranch Dog) in 8x57IRS and 8x58RD.

360-150-RN in .38 Special and .357 Magnum.

Thanks in advance.

Just in case you forgot about them  ;)

Had some trouble with the 360-150-RN in the 357 Mag, can't get it to fit for the calculations. With the .358" nose length plus the spec minimum brass length, the cartridge overall length exceeds the SAAMI spec by .034". Are you shooting this bullet? Seems the nose is a bit long for the application and might cause some problems with the cylinder clearing the frame.

(http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/data/images/360150RN_357Mag.jpg)
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on July 24, 2016, 01:58:35 PM
I am not shooting this bullet (yet), as I haven't received the mold. But I am confident that it will work fine.
My S&W 686 takes a bullet sticking out .386 or an OAL of 1.68 so it is no problem.
I believe it is only in the old S&W 27 and Colt SAA variations the OAL needs to be that short as SAAMI.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on July 24, 2016, 08:33:31 PM
I am not shooting this bullet (yet), as I haven't received the mold. But I am confident that it will work fine.
My S&W 686 takes a bullet sticking out .386 or an OAL of 1.68 so it is no problem.
I believe it is only in the old S&W 27 and Colt SAA variations the OAL needs to be that short as SAAMI.
Thanks for the reply, I will run it then.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on July 24, 2016, 09:42:59 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on July 25, 2016, 08:10:46 PM
Thanks! That's great! Can't wait to get them molds  ;D
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on July 25, 2016, 08:16:21 PM
Thanks! That's great! Can't wait to get them molds  ;D
You're welome!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Cowboy_Dan on July 28, 2016, 07:48:04 AM
Could you please do another couple for me?

434-199-SP in .44 Mag and Spl

313-89-WC (313492) in 7.62x25, seated as in a revolver.

Thank you again.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on July 28, 2016, 01:44:48 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Birgen on July 29, 2016, 05:27:56 AM
Hi!

Is it possible to get load data for the .455 Webley mkII cartridge?

I would like to use the following molds:
-454-276-SWC RG4 cavity HB => 250gr
-454-276-SWC RG4 cavity PB => 276 gr
-453-196-SWC (H&G130)

The cases are turned down Starline .45LC cases with Large Pistol primers.

Thank You,
Birgen
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on July 29, 2016, 11:57:59 AM
Hi!

Is it possible to get load data for the .455 Webley mkII cartridge?

I would like to use the following molds:
-454-276-SWC RG4 cavity HB => 250gr
-454-276-SWC RG4 cavity PB => 276 gr
-453-196-SWC (H&G130)

The cases are turned down Starline .45LC cases with Large Pistol primers.

Thank You,
Birgen
Yeap, I can do it I have the specs for the 455 Webley MkII.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on July 31, 2016, 02:55:13 PM
The 454-276-SWC HB is listed as a 454-250-SWC (True Keith HB) in the database.
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Birgen on July 31, 2016, 11:27:44 PM
Thanks Ranch Dog!!

I can start reloading now  ;D
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on August 01, 2016, 12:07:14 PM
Thanks Ranch Dog!!

I can start reloading now  ;D
You're welcome. Good luck and feed back after your range work is always appreciated.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Paper Puncher on August 03, 2016, 09:27:55 PM
Just noticed a typo in "Index of /data/NOE/PDF/30"

358125SWC_9mmLuger.pdf  should be 358128SWC_9mm Luger

Steve
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on August 06, 2016, 12:23:29 PM
Just noticed a typo in "Index of /data/NOE/PDF/30"

358125SWC_9mmLuger.pdf  should be 358128SWC_9mm Luger

Steve
Good morning Steve and thanks for the correction. I have it fixed.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Birgen on August 09, 2016, 04:02:24 PM
Hi Ranch Dog,

Can I get some more reloading data for the .38 special / .38 special +P and .357 Magnum.
Using this boolit: 364-200-RN 38 S&W sized to .358/.359

Thanks,

Birgen


Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on August 12, 2016, 07:25:59 PM
Hi Ranch Dog,

Can I get some more reloading data for the .38 special / .38 special +P and .357 Magnum.
Using this boolit: 364-200-RN 38 S&W sized to .358/.359

Thanks,

Birgen

Sorry Birgen, just can't make that work out.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Birgen on August 13, 2016, 12:01:51 PM
Hi,

What is the generated error? C.O.A.L , bullet weight, size or pressure?

Anyway thanks for your time and effort.

Birgen
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on August 13, 2016, 08:18:08 PM
Hi,

What is the generated error? C.O.A.L , bullet weight, size or pressure?

Anyway thanks for your time and effort.

Birgen

It is the .364" against the cartridges you requested. QuickLoad cannot provide reasonable results with the bullet's diameter against the specified cartridges. In that this data is for everyone's use, bullet sizing is not considered.

.. bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

Granted, you said that you would size the bullet down but this would be data that only benefits your application and in that my templates are fairly automated and don't indicate groove size or what the bullet has been sized to, it could be hazardous for others to use.

While out repairing irrigation lines this morning, I was actually thinking about this. NOE usually has the same bullet in multiple diameters so this afternoon I sat down and looked. Sure enough there are identical designs, other than overall diameter, with the 360-200-RF being similar to what you are trying to accomplish by sizing down the 364-200-RF. Data can be generated within the requirements of the templates and is valid as long as your bore is within .003" of the bullet's design diameter (.360"). Here are the bullets to compare.

(http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/data/images/360-200-RN.jpg)

(http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/data/images/364-200-RN.jpg)

I will get to it and should have you some data by tomorrow.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on August 13, 2016, 09:10:46 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on August 14, 2016, 10:03:00 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on August 14, 2016, 10:09:59 PM
Hi,

What is the generated error? C.O.A.L , bullet weight, size or pressure?

Anyway thanks for your time and effort.

Birgen

Finished this up this afternoon. Please note that this might not be an appropriate bullet for these applications because of the nose length! All data exceeds the spec cartridge OAL.

What might work best is using the 357 Mag with 38 Spl brass (http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/data/NOE/PDF/30/360200RN_357Mag_using_38Spl_brass.pdf). This minimizes the COAL but it still exceeds the spec OAL.

I use my TLC359-190-RF, a 35 Rem bullet, in a similar fashion for my Rossi 92 chambered in 357 Mag. I use 38 Spl +P brass loaded to 35.0K PSI. In my case the bullet nose just happens to work out for the appropriate COAL but it will not work out with 357 Mag brass. This is a very effective deer and hog combo.

(http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/Firearms/R92_357Mag_Scout/images/R92_TLC359190RF_why_38Spl.jpg)
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Birgen on August 16, 2016, 04:48:03 AM
Ranch Dog,

Thanks for all of the information and data you have given, I will try to cast these next week.

Birgen
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on August 16, 2016, 10:05:02 AM
You're welcome. It will be interesting to see how this works out.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: cornmastah on August 17, 2016, 06:00:32 PM
I think you already did the 199 gr sp, but I couldn't find the 434-235-SP load notes.  If you get a chance, I could use some load notes for the 434-235-SP bullet.  I believe most of my 240 gr loads will probably be too high of pressure due to how low the bullet sits inside the case.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on August 17, 2016, 06:26:49 PM
Me too  :) , 434-235-SP for the regular .44 Magnum and .44 Special revolver.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on August 17, 2016, 08:25:02 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: cornmastah on August 17, 2016, 08:59:36 PM
Thanks!  Looking forward to the 44 mag load data.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on August 18, 2016, 12:06:33 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on August 19, 2016, 01:04:37 PM
Thanks again!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on August 19, 2016, 09:45:12 PM
Thanks again!
You're welcome!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: cornmastah on August 19, 2016, 11:11:51 PM
Yes, thanks a bunch!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on August 19, 2016, 11:22:31 PM
Glad to be of help.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on August 21, 2016, 07:11:47 PM
Just a question...
The 358-135-FN, should it be used with the same load data as the SC357-135-RF?
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on August 21, 2016, 09:03:57 PM
Just a question...
The 358-135-FN, should it be used with the same load data as the SC357-135-RF?
Let me look at it as soon as I can. Might be Monday morning.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: amranch on September 09, 2016, 05:13:31 PM
I have a 360-230rf rg with PB and GC cavities that I would like to try in 35 rem. out of an older type marlin 336. would this be possible or too long. would probably be using the PB. Dont think velocity would warrant GC. most of our shots where we hunt are less than 50 yrds.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on September 09, 2016, 07:32:46 PM
Just a question...
The 358-135-FN, should it be used with the same load data as the SC357-135-RF?
Let me look at it as soon as I can. Might be Monday morning.

I'm really sorry I overlooked this, been pretty busy. I checked it out today and I think I will run it. The bullets are not similar. It will be next week as I have some family coming today through Tuesday and I need a bit of quiet time to run these sheets.

I have a 360-230rf rg with PB and GC cavities that I would like to try in 35 rem. out of an older type marlin 336. would this be possible or too long. would probably be using the PB. Dont think velocity would warrant GC. most of our shots where we hunt are less than 50 yrds.

It should work as long as your Marlin 336 can accommodate a 2.336" COAL with this nose profile. Might be close. Will run it next week as well.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Birgen on September 10, 2016, 04:47:38 AM
Hi Ranch Dog,

Yesterday I was able to shoot my webley thanks to your load notes using 454-250-SWC (TK-HB).

The result was not good at all as I quit shooting after 4 shots as 3 of them came bouncing back out of the bullet trap with a vengeance at 25 meters! (Using a max load of 1,5gr Accurate solo 1000)

I believe the max pressure that has been used in quickload of 11.7Kpsi is to low as the standard pressure for .455 Webley MKII is 13Kpsi.

Other signs where:
- no recoil at all
- cases covered with sooth
- a lot of unburned powder

I have read the "pressure notes" provided with the load notes and I understand why there is a "safety zone", can you create new load data using 13Kpi and discard the previously made ones?
 
Have a great time with your family!

Kind regards,
Birgen
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on September 11, 2016, 11:12:18 AM
I have deleted Webley sheets to avoid any issues. Thanks for the feedback.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on September 13, 2016, 11:14:13 AM
I'm really sorry I overlooked this, been pretty busy. I checked it out today and I think I will run it. The bullets are not similar. It will be next week as I have some family coming today through Tuesday and I need a bit of quiet time to run these sheets.

That will be great. Thanks!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on September 14, 2016, 12:42:39 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on September 14, 2016, 12:45:57 PM
Hi Ranch Dog,

Yesterday I was able to shoot my webley thanks to your load notes using 454-250-SWC (TK-HB).

The result was not good at all as I quit shooting after 4 shots as 3 of them came bouncing back out of the bullet trap with a vengeance at 25 meters! (Using a max load of 1,5gr Accurate solo 1000)

I believe the max pressure that has been used in quickload of 11.7Kpsi is to low as the standard pressure for .455 Webley MKII is 13Kpsi.

Other signs where:
- no recoil at all
- cases covered with sooth
- a lot of unburned powder

I have read the "pressure notes" provided with the load notes and I understand why there is a "safety zone", can you create new load data using 13Kpi and discard the previously made ones?
 
Have a great time with your family!

Kind regards,
Birgen

I have deleted Webley sheets to avoid any issues. Thanks for the feedback.

Birgen,

I have run the 454-250-SWC-TK-HB 455 Webley MkII data again per your request at 13.1K PSI. It really did not change the loads but a 10th of a grain so I'm not sure what help it will be. Take a look at it if you will and let me know if I should pull the data. Unfortunately, you might need to use another source for you data.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Birgen on September 15, 2016, 07:58:52 PM
Hi Ranch Dog,

The new load notes you have created for the webley mkII are still at a nominal pressure of 11.7kpsi like the previous version.

I have found information of the french powder supplier Vectan about the webley mkII cartridge I have put it in a attachement.

Webley MKII pressures:
- PROOF LOAD : 1170 bar / 16969 psi
- Max Pressure : 1035 bar / 15011 psi
- Nominal work pressure : 900 bar / 13053 psi

I believe you must change the following in the load notes to get the correct data:
At cartridge data section => Pressure Limits =>
- Pmax 13.1 should be 15
- NMP 11.7 should be 13

Now the Pmax of the powder data should be at 13Kpsi?

Thanks for your time and effort I really appreciate this!

Birgen


Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on September 15, 2016, 08:34:49 PM
The new load notes you have created for the webley mkII are still at a nominal pressure of 11.7kpsi like the previous version.

Sure enough, I didn't copy the revision to the server, got it now: http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/data/NOE/PDF/40/454-250-SWC-TK-HB_455Webley_MkII_Rev1.pdf

On the version I just changed the NMP to the PMax of 13.1. I understand what you are say with the data you attached.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on September 15, 2016, 08:41:00 PM
I have the CIP stuff, thought you would like the 455 Webley MKII page...
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on September 16, 2016, 11:39:54 AM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Mountain Man on September 18, 2016, 12:19:24 AM
Hello,
I was looking for load information regarding 2 molds. The noe 311-230-fn, and the noe 311-247-fn for the 300 blackout.
I was using reloading data I had from my die sets which stated a few different overall lengths. After a few trials I was able to get both boolits styles to cycle properly in my rifle, while seating the boolits in the 2.130-2.150  overal length range for the 311-230-fn boolits. My listed information states an overall length at 2.245, and my test rounds at 2.220 also did not cycle and caused a pretty nasty jam. Rifle had to be completely taken apart to remove the semi chambered round. Even though all rounds were case guaged they still did not go fully into battery. Almost but not enough.
On the noe 311-247-fn, I was casting using the hollow points. They were averaging 227.5 grains prior to powder coating. They were loaded to 2.035 and all cycled excellent.
My main question is about overall lengths and being safe. I did not want to be too deep seated and be unaware of unsafe pressures.
All cases looked fine. No bulges or backed out primers. I was using a light load of 10.9 grains of accurate 5744, if that matters for the data.
Thank you for the help.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on September 18, 2016, 04:41:39 AM
My main question is about overall lengths and being safe. I did not want to be too deep seated and be unaware of unsafe pressures. All cases looked fine. No bulges or backed out primers. I was using a light load of 10.9 grains of accurate 5744, if that matters for the data.

Yeah, you are taking care of your reloading business by being concerned about the reduced OAL Length and I will get the data out to see what the loads are like. I am going to planting fall/winter food plots for the next couple of days so I won't be able to get to it until midweek. Sorry about that.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Mountain Man on September 18, 2016, 11:12:22 AM
My main question is about overall lengths and being safe. I did not want to be too deep seated and be unaware of unsafe pressures. All cases looked fine. No bulges or backed out primers. I was using a light load of 10.9 grains of accurate 5744, if that matters for the data.

Yeah, you are taking care of your reloading business by being concerned about the reduced OAL Length and I will get the data out to see what the loads are like. I am going to planting fall/winter food plots for the next couple of days so I won't be able to get to it until midweek. Sorry about that.
Good luck on setting up your winter garden Sir. I am very grateful for your help. No worries on time. Your help is greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Birgen on September 18, 2016, 09:54:16 PM
The new load notes you have created for the webley mkII are still at a nominal pressure of 11.7kpsi like the previous version.

Sure enough, I didn't copy the revision to the server, got it now: http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/data/NOE/PDF/40/454-250-SWC-TK-HB_455Webley_MkII_Rev1.pdf

On the version I just changed the NMP to the PMax of 13.1. I understand what you are say with the data you attached.

Hi Ranch Dog,

Thanks for all the time you have put into this .455 webley load data but I guess it just wasn't meant to be  ;) probably best to delete the data to avoid any issues?

I will report back when I have a working load, thanks for the CIP data.

Birgen
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on September 22, 2016, 01:02:27 PM
After a few trials I was able to get both boolits styles to cycle properly in my rifle, while seating the boolits in the 2.130-2.150  overal length range for the 311-230-fn boolits.
I will work on this today. The Load Notes sheet will generate a 2.102" min COAL for the 311-230-FN so that will be safe to use with the overall lengths you are working with.

On the noe 311-247-fn, I was casting using the hollow points. They were averaging 227.5 grains prior to powder coating. They were loaded to 2.035 and all cycled excellent.
Unfortunately, the Load Notes sheet is going to calculate at a minimum OAL of 2.133" for the 311-247-FN. The bullet is pretty long and probably not appropriate for you application. This Load Note sheet will post at 2.133" but don't use it for you rifle and shorter COAL needs.

In that the generated run of data is not applicable to your use, I will PM you a max load of Accurate 5744 for use at 2.035".
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on September 22, 2016, 01:03:01 PM
Hi Ranch Dog,

Thanks for all the time you have put into this .455 webley load data but I guess it just wasn't meant to be  ;) probably best to delete the data to avoid any issues?

I will report back when I have a working load, thanks for the CIP data.

Birgen

Will do, sorry I could not be of help.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: thumper on September 22, 2016, 02:37:32 PM
Hi Ranch Dog,  please run data for:

- 360-228-FN  35XCB
- 360-280-RN  360009

Both to run in the 358 Win.  Thanks much.

Thumper
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Mountain Man on September 22, 2016, 03:40:38 PM
After a few trials I was able to get both boolits styles to cycle properly in my rifle, while seating the boolits in the 2.130-2.150  overal length range for the 311-230-fn boolits.
I will work on this today. The Load Notes sheet will generate a 2.102" min COAL for the 311-230-FN so that will be safe to use with the overall lengths you are working with.

On the noe 311-247-fn, I was casting using the hollow points. They were averaging 227.5 grains prior to powder coating. They were loaded to 2.035 and all cycled excellent.
Unfortunately, the Load Notes sheet is going to calculate at a minimum OAL of 2.133" for the 311-247-FN. The bullet is pretty long and probably not appropriate for you application. This Load Note sheet will post at 2.133" but don't use it for you rifle and shorter COAL needs.

In that the generated run of data is not applicable to your use, I will PM you a max load of Accurate 5744 for use at 2.035".
I was going to also try both molds for my 30-06. Can you also provide proper information for those if there is no good set ups for my 300 blackout. Lastly, if those molds are not suited for a 300 blackout with a 1/7 twist, can you possibly direct me to one I should be looking at please? Thank you again for your help.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Mountain Man on September 22, 2016, 03:52:32 PM
I also purchased and have the NOE 311-150-SP (311414). I was planning on using that for my lighter 300 blackout and 30-06 needs. I hope I ordered the right one.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Mountain Man on September 22, 2016, 04:01:32 PM
Lastly, and I apologize for the multiple posts but I just went and checked the overall length of the 311-247 and they are a good amount shorter then the 311-230. Just wondering if it makes a difference that I only plan on using the hollow point pins for the 311-247. It's an rg mold and seems to actually drop the boolits shorter then the 230 mold. I was seating the hollow point in the crimp groove which was giving me the overall length I first started to cycle.
I'm new so I'm completely relying on your skills and background. I'm learning but I'm seeming to be missing something when it comes to the proper mold for the calibers I was looking for. I thought I understood but maybe I didn't.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: timbuck on September 22, 2016, 05:30:22 PM

 Hi,
Swede is running this mold, can you get load data for this in 45acp?
NOE TL4524-230-RF (BB)
Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on September 22, 2016, 09:29:42 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Mountain Man on September 22, 2016, 10:12:58 PM
Thank you for taking the time and doing all that work for me. Very kind of you Sir. I hope your garden work went well also. Have a good one
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on September 23, 2016, 01:13:11 AM
Thank you for taking the time and doing all that work for me. Very kind of you Sir. I hope your garden work went well also. Have a good one
You're welcome and I hope the information is useful. Garden stuff went good. Planted a bunch of acres in whitetail food plots.

(http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/ranch/food_plots/2016_Fall/images/%231_2BFG.jpg)

(http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/ranch/food_plots/2016_Fall/images/%231_tractor.jpg)

Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on September 23, 2016, 01:24:03 AM
I got a kick out of this little guy, a bobwhite that walked in front of my tractor/planter catching and eating bugs that were being flushed out ahead of me. He ranged from a few feet to about 20 yards ahead of me over a 400 yard run along this brush line. 8500 lbs of equipment at high RPM didn't phase him in the least, made the hunting good I guess. He sure ate his fill!

(http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/ranch/food_plots/2016_Fall/images/bobwhite.jpg)
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on September 24, 2016, 12:36:25 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Mountain Man on September 24, 2016, 09:46:06 PM
I got a kick out of this little guy, a bobwhite that walked in front of my tractor/planter catching and eating bugs that were being flushed out ahead of me. He ranged from a few feet to about 20 yards ahead of me over a 400 yard run along this brush line. 8500 lbs of equipment at high RPM didn't phase him in the least, made the hunting good I guess. He sure ate his fill!

(http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/ranch/food_plots/2016_Fall/images/bobwhite.jpg)

When you plant a garden, you were not kidding. Impressive. I'd take some photos from our area in the mountains but it's still pretty burnt from the major forest fire we had last year.
On average, what's your dressed out weight for the white tail in your area?
Lastly, when you have time, could you also make a load sheet for the NOE 311-150-sp for the 300 blackout please.
This mold and the other 2 you did for the 300 blackout and the accurate 5744 powder, is it possible at some point to make a load sheet for the 30-60 also? I'd love to have setups for my other deer rife with those 3 molds, if that's possible.
thank you again Mr. Ranch dog.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on September 25, 2016, 12:24:40 PM
Hi Ranch Dog,  please run data for:

- 360-228-FN  35XCB
- 360-280-RN  360009

Both to run in the 358 Win.  Thanks much.

Thumper

Thumper, I'm really sorry I missed your request. Was doing an "audit" as I posted this latest update and found your request.  Today is a storm day and probably won't get much time outdoors so I will knock them out.

Lastly, when you have time, could you also make a load sheet for the NOE 311-150-sp for the 300 blackout please. This mold and the other 2 you did for the 300 blackout and the accurate 5744 powder, is it possible at some point to make a load sheet for the 30-60 also? I'd love to have setups for my other deer rife with those 3 molds, if that's possible.
thank you again Mr. Ranch dog.

You're welcome. This update should have everything you need, let me know if I missed something.

Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on September 25, 2016, 12:51:13 PM
On average, what's your dressed out weight for the white tail in your area?

Very small by most standards as they are a desert type deer (texan). As a managed land, I keep electronic records with the State. I was able to download the info.

(http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/ranch/images/stats.jpg)
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on September 26, 2016, 01:27:08 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Mountain Man on September 26, 2016, 03:29:19 PM
On average, what's your dressed out weight for the white tail in your area?

Very small by most standards as they are a desert type deer (texan). As a managed land, I keep electronic records with the State. I was able to download the info.

(http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/ranch/images/stats.jpg)

Our place is in Northern California. In our area the Bucks have always been on the smaller side. I'm guessing but 90 pounds dressed out is about average. A bit north the deer can be alittle larger but maybe 110 max. Thank you for the intel. I would have expected Texas to have bear sized deer.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on September 26, 2016, 05:42:33 PM
I really appreciate the last set of data cards for my molds. Your help was paramount my friend. Have a great day Sir.

You're welcome! You have a good one as well.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: thumper on September 27, 2016, 12:07:36 AM
I can't seem to locate the data for these:

     360-228-FN  358 Win
     360-280-RN  358 Win

Am I missing the obvious ?  Please advise, and thanks for your help Ranch Dog.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on September 27, 2016, 12:54:38 AM
I can't seem to locate the data for these:

     360-228-FN  358 Win
     360-280-RN  358 Win

Am I missing the obvious ?  Please advise, and thanks for your help Ranch Dog.

Well heck, went through all that and didn't upload them. Try it now toward the bottom of the page: http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/data/NOE/PDF/30/
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: thumper on September 27, 2016, 01:00:01 AM
That worked great !  Thanks again.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: thumper on October 13, 2016, 08:41:30 PM
Hi Ranch Dog, if I can trouble you again, please work up data for:

311150 SP ( 311414 )
310165 FN ( 30XCB )

Both for 308.  Thanks again.

Thumper
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on October 15, 2016, 08:25:41 PM
Hello again,

If you can find the time could you please make up a sheet for the NOE 360-150-RN in the 9mm?

Thank you in advance
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on October 17, 2016, 11:07:02 AM
I've been out for a long weekend, will get the data out pronto.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on October 17, 2016, 12:36:58 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Mountain Man on October 17, 2016, 03:40:09 PM
Good morning my good man. I hope you had a nice weekend.
When you have time can you please make another load card for me. This time for the NOE (rg) 453-220-RF for the 45 acp.
I'm working on loads using both ramshot true blue and silhouette for as close as I can get without going to the plus P category.
Can you provide data using the hollow point weights vs the 230 grain round nose or flat point please? They are coming out about 200 grains once they are powder coated.
Thank you again for your help.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on October 21, 2016, 01:43:39 PM
Sorry about the delay fellows, got tied up this week with chores on the ranch. Will get to the 45 Auto data this afternoon or on Saturday morning.
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on October 22, 2016, 12:00:35 PM
Morning!

I got up early to run the data as I know I'm behind. Beautiful, dark, cool predawn day out there. While I was running the data, I heard a hog squeal. Got up from the table and sure enough about 20 hogs in my extended yard fighting. Took a break, went and got my Marlin 375 out of the safe and shot a large sow with my TLC379-235-RF. 'llI take that as a reward for starting early!
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on October 22, 2016, 09:41:37 PM
Thanks!

Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Mountain Man on October 22, 2016, 10:33:16 PM
All we have around here early in the morning is raccoons. You Sir, have a lucky spot. Lol
Thank you for the new 45 auto load cards.
Never shot a 375 marlin. How does it shoot? hog hide is tough so I bet it packs a solid punch.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on October 22, 2016, 11:02:20 PM
Thanks!
You're welcome!

All we have around here early in the morning is raccoons. You Sir, have a lucky spot. Lol
Thank you for the new 45 auto load cards.
Never shot a 375 marlin. How does it shoot? hog hide is tough so I bet it packs a solid punch.
Yeah, I'm a lucky dude.

375 Win is just is really just a modern 38-55 Win, a great deer/black bear/hog cartridge. Only been elk hunting once and passed on what I saw but I would use it with bulls responding to a bugle. Never been moose hunting but it seems a lot of that is close range so I would use it on one. A bit more punch that a 30-30 Wn/35 Rem but not as much as a 444 Marlin/45-70 Govt.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Closey on October 23, 2016, 07:21:25 PM
Hi Ranchdog, if possible could you run me the NOE 268-134-FN  in 6.5X52 please.
Thank you,
Closey
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on October 24, 2016, 12:07:41 AM
Hi Ranchdog, if possible could you run me the NOE 268-134-FN  in 6.5X52 please.
Thank you,
Closey
Will do!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on October 25, 2016, 12:11:29 AM
Thanks!
Very nice looking round of 9mm Luger ammunition!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on October 25, 2016, 12:15:54 AM
Hi Ranchdog, if possible could you run me the NOE 268-134-FN  in 6.5X52 please.
Thank you,
Closey

Closey, the NOE database I use lists the design as the 270-134-FN so that is how I ran the data. As long as your bore groove is within .003 of your bullet's diameter of .268" (.265, .266. or .267), the posted data is valid.


Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on October 25, 2016, 04:23:27 PM
Well, I just ordered another mold, the 360-154-SP (GC), so I would be interested in data for use in .357 Magnum ;D  if you'd like to...
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Closey on October 25, 2016, 06:20:12 PM
Thank you Ranchdog, much appreciated.
Closey
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on October 26, 2016, 02:21:06 AM
Well, I just ordered another mold, the 360-154-SP (GC), so I would be interested in data for use in .357 Magnum ;D  if you'd like to...
Sure, thanks for supporting NOE! Will knock it out in the morning.

Thank you Ranchdog, much appreciated.
Closey
You're welcome!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on October 26, 2016, 01:13:50 PM
Closey, the NOE database I use lists the design as the 360-156-SP.

Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Mountain Man on October 29, 2016, 11:44:33 PM
Good afternoon Mr. Ranch dog,
When you have time can you please make load cards for the
NOE 502-322-swc
NOE 502-404-swc
NOE 502-485-swc
For the Smith and Wesson 500 magnum please. I'm more wanting again the load information for the hp versions of the 3 rg molds.Can you also include the ramshot enforcer and accurate 5744 powder for the data? Thank you again for your help.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on October 30, 2016, 12:02:54 AM
Good afternoon Mr. Ranch dog,
When you have time can you please make load cards for the
NOE 502-322-swc
NOE 502-404-swc
NOE 502-485-swc
For the Smith and Wesson 500 magnum please. I'm more wanting again the load information for the hp versions of the 3 rg molds.Can you also include the ramshot enforcer and accurate 5744 powder for the data? Thank you again for your help.

I will run them.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on October 31, 2016, 09:57:34 PM
Mountain Man,

On the 502-485-SWC, I need a little help. Could you tell me if this is the bullet in the drawing on this page: http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product_info.php?cPath=43_429&products_id=3314

I'm wondering if the drawing is wrong on this page?

Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Mountain Man on October 31, 2016, 10:44:11 PM
That is the correct mold. There was another mold made that was for pure lead and wondering if there was a minor mistake there in the weight differences vs the normal wheel weight measure. What I can say for certain is, that's the right one I was talking about,lol.
I was expecting boolits in the 461ish range for the HP portion.
I wish I had more information for you Sir. Thank you for making the 320 grain load card and adding the powders I use for this set. It makes life a lot easier on my end for sure.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on November 01, 2016, 01:52:29 AM
Glad to help out. A forum member let me know that I have the primer type wrong which I will correct in the morning. It does not affect the data calculations as QL makes the assumption that you are using the correct primers for the brass. I have it listed wrong in my cartridge database.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on November 01, 2016, 01:10:32 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on November 01, 2016, 01:16:27 PM
A forum member let me know that I have the primer type wrong which I will correct in the morning. It does not affect the data calculations as QL makes the assumption that you are using the correct primers for the brass. I have it listed wrong in my cartridge database.

Ends up that the older 500 S&W bullet Load Note sheets that list "Large Pistol" primers are not going to be as easy to update as I thought. They were run very early in this endeavour before I was using the templates to run the data that I do now. To avoid any confusion, I've deleted those files. They will have to be run again. If you need the data, just request the specific bullets and I will run them.

I'm getting ready to take my hunting season break through the end of the year starting Friday. I know I'm a bit slow in response but I will be even slower as I won't have the early morning hours to work on these. I hunt (or at least I'm in the brush) everyday of our hunting season. Please list what you need and I will work on it as soon as I can.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Mountain Man on November 01, 2016, 02:22:17 PM
A forum member let me know that I have the primer type wrong which I will correct in the morning. It does not affect the data calculations as QL makes the assumption that you are using the correct primers for the brass. I have it listed wrong in my cartridge database.

Ends up that the older 500 S&W bullet Load Note sheets that list "Large Pistol" primers are not going to be as easy to update as I thought. They were run very early in this endeavour before I was using the templates to run the data that I do now. To avoid any confusion, I've deleted those files. They will have to be run again. If you need the data, just request the specific bullets and I will run them.

I'm getting ready to take my hunting season break through the end of the year starting Friday. I know I'm a bit slow in response but I will be even slower as I won't have the early morning hours to work on these. I hunt (or at least I'm in the brush) everyday of our hunting season. Please list what you need and I will work on it as soon as I can.

Thank you for the new load cards. I really do appreciate your help. I would not be able to create my reloads without your assistance.
If you going to re-do the 502 molds,
I'd love to have the new data for the 502-375-SP and the 502-600-RF for the 500 magnum. Model is the 6.5 inch half lug.
Please enjoy your season, and no hurry on the data. When you get to it, I'll make a copy of myself.
Good luck and happy hunting Mr. Ranch Dog
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: okie44 on November 01, 2016, 10:16:22 PM
Enjoy your time hunting and good luck!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on November 03, 2016, 12:26:26 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on November 03, 2016, 12:26:47 PM
Enjoy your time hunting and good luck!
Thanks okie44!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Mountain Man on November 03, 2016, 03:03:53 PM
Thank you for the updated load cards. I hope you have a great hunting break and holidays with your family. Take care Sir.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: pjames32@live.com on December 05, 2016, 11:34:28 PM
Looking for any data for the NOE 454-273 in a 45 ACP. Loading for a S&W revolver. 454-273 returns nothing in a search.
Thx
PJ
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on December 06, 2016, 08:23:31 PM
Looking for any data for the NOE 454-273 in a 45 ACP. Loading for a S&W revolver. 454-273 returns nothing in a search.
Thx
PJ
PJ, is it the 454-273-WC you are looking for. Just want to make sure as you did not specify the bullet's nose profile.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: pjames32@live.com on December 07, 2016, 02:11:18 AM
Ranch Dog-yes the wadcutter design. I'm working with AA #5 with no chrony. Tried 6.4gr with flattened primers. Dropped to 6.0gr. Primers look good. Still a bunch of recoil. I'd like to find a slower load.
Thx
PJ
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on December 07, 2016, 02:29:24 PM
Ranch Dog-yes the wadcutter design. I'm working with AA #5 with no chrony. Tried 6.4gr with flattened primers. Dropped to 6.0gr. Primers look good. Still a bunch of recoil. I'd like to find a slower load.
Thx
PJ

PJ,
I'm not sure if what I posted is going to be any help as I only post max load suggestions and not any custom data. The QuickLoad run says that 6.9-grains of AA#5 is a max but in that 6.4 grains produced flatten primers that is of no help. Without a chronograph to provide your velocities with the 6.4 & 6.0 grain loads, there is no way I can use the software to suggest something else.
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: pjames32@live.com on December 07, 2016, 07:40:15 PM
Ranch Dog-Thx for the reply on the 454-273 loads. I've tried 6.0, 6.2 and 6.4gr of AA#5. The 6.4gr load did produce some flattened primers. This did not show up on the 6.0 or 6.2 gr loads.
I'll load up some at 6.0gr since that was more pleasant to shoot and I'm not looking for high end loads. I can have my neighbor shoot some over his chrony.
I appreciate your help.
PJ
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Low Budget Shooter on December 16, 2016, 10:45:36 PM
Ranch Dog, thank you so much for running and posting all this data! 

Would you please run 38 special and 357 magnum for these NOE bullets:

360-158-SWC (BRP)
360-158-SWC (HG51)

I'm especially interested in Alliant powders Red Dot, Unique, Bullseye, and 2400.

Thank you!

Jeff
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: GregP42 on December 18, 2016, 06:13:55 PM
Ranch Dog,

Could I get you to do the 513-875-FN BMG, I want to be sure the data isn't different than what it was when it was 850gr.

Thanks and Merry Christmas,
Greg
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on December 19, 2016, 10:56:59 AM
Good morning and Merry Christmas Fellows!

GregP42, I need to request the bullet drawing data file for the 513-875-FN from Al as it is not in the database that I have.

Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Low Budget Shooter on December 19, 2016, 05:14:01 PM
Ranch Dog,

Thank you very much!

Jeff
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on December 20, 2016, 01:50:50 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Low Budget Shooter on December 20, 2016, 03:58:52 PM
Thank you, Ranch Dog!  Merry Christmas.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on December 21, 2016, 02:18:18 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: GregP42 on January 20, 2017, 03:08:51 AM
Ranch Dog,

Thank you for the 513 bullet data :)


Now a new request for the 413-215-WC in the .41 Mag and .41 Special if you can.

Thank you again for all the help you give,
Greg
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on January 20, 2017, 01:20:50 PM
Ranch Dog,

Thank you for the 513 bullet data :)


Now a new request for the 413-215-WC in the .41 Mag and .41 Special if you can.

Thank you again for all the help you give,
Greg
Can do!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on January 21, 2017, 02:26:16 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: GregP42 on January 22, 2017, 01:50:51 AM
Ranch Dog,

Again many thanks for the work you do for us with these load notes :)

Greg
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on January 22, 2017, 01:21:01 PM
Ranch Dog,

Again many thanks for the work you do for us with these load notes :)

Greg

You're welcome Greg. Glad to be of help!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: vollemaan on January 27, 2017, 11:21:00 AM
Can I get data on the 172-32-RN in .17 Hornady Hornet?

Thanks,
Tom
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: mph911 on January 27, 2017, 08:50:10 PM
Hi Ranch Dog,

Could I get data on the 316-169-RN 316291 and the 316-202-RN 316299 in 7.62x54R ? 

Thank you,
Mike
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on January 30, 2017, 04:13:44 PM
Can I get data on the 172-32-RN in .17 Hornady Hornet?

Thanks,
Tom

Hi Ranch Dog,

Could I get data on the 316-169-RN 316291 and the 316-202-RN 316299 in 7.62x54R ? 

Thank you,
Mike

Will get the out this week guys.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Kitika on January 31, 2017, 02:27:48 AM
Can I get data for the 311-195-FN GC (RCBS 311-180-FN) in 30/30?
Also data for the 432-200-RF  PB in 44/40 for a low pressure rifle using rifle powders like h4198 and Rl7 plus others? Trying to find a safe load replicating blackpowder velocities.
Thanks a heap!
Kit
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on January 31, 2017, 01:41:05 PM
Can I get data on the 172-32-RN in .17 Hornady Hornet?

Thanks,
Tom

Unfortunately, I didn't have any luck generating PB loads for the 17 Hornet. Here is all I could come up with and I'm not sure how reliable these are but they would be well within the pressure confines of the cartridge.

Cartridge Min OAL: 1.541"
Barrel Length: 22"

TrailBoss
3.6 grains
100% case fill
100% Burnt
1053 FPS
30.0K PSI

Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star
3.5 grains
66% case fill
100% Burnt
1045 FPS
30.0K PSI

Vihtavuori N105
5.1 grains
61% case fill
84% Burnt
1112 FPS
30.0K PSI

Sorry that I cannot be of more help.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on January 31, 2017, 02:01:08 PM
Can I get data for the 311-195-FN GC (RCBS 311-180-FN) in 30/30?
Also data for the 432-200-RF  PB in 44/40 for a low pressure rifle using rifle powders like h4198 and Rl7 plus others? Trying to find a safe load replicating blackpowder velocities.
Thanks a heap!
Kit

Kit, I don't see a "432" in the database, but there is a .431-200-FN (44-200-FN) which is a plain base bullet. If this isn't it can you provide a link to the NOE product?
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: vollemaan on January 31, 2017, 04:04:07 PM
Thank you very much for the info on the 172-32-RN, Ranch Dog. Going to be interesting working with this little one.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Kitika on January 31, 2017, 09:54:32 PM
I would say that is the one there is only one 200gr .44 bullet on the site. Here's the link anyways http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/index.php?cPath=37_209
Thanks again,
Kit
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on February 01, 2017, 01:36:49 PM
Okay guys, thanks. I will get the list completed as soon as I can. I have to take my dad to Houston this morning but still should get to these this week.
Update!

Load Notes Posted:

Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on February 02, 2017, 02:52:08 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: mph911 on February 03, 2017, 03:06:01 AM
Nice long lists for each one!

Thank you very much, Ranch Dog

Mike
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on February 04, 2017, 12:44:56 AM
Can I get data for the 311-195-FN GC (RCBS 311-180-FN) in 30/30?
Also data for the 432-200-RF  PB in 44/40 for a low pressure rifle using rifle powders like h4198 and Rl7 plus others? Trying to find a safe load replicating blackpowder velocities.
Thanks a heap!
Kit
Kit didn't have much luck with the 44-40 Win loads. No rifle powders would generate given the low pressure limits of the cartridge. That's tough to do if not impossible even with the 44 Mag in strong receivers like the Rossi 92 carbines.


Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Kitika on February 04, 2017, 04:16:05 AM
Thank you very much for that ranch dog! I've been estimating powder loads using h4198 at about 24/25gn under the 44/40 bullet from some older alliant data using a 240gn with Rl7 at about 22gn(figures maybe off i'd need to check my load notes for what i did find out). I got about 1300fps with the h4198 when I did try it but I couldn't test the pressure so I'm not going to repeat that to often. Again thanks for the data!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Oscarflytyer on February 06, 2017, 02:16:56 AM
just now looking here, but...  Thanx Mike for providing this info thru another location I contacted you on!  VERY helpful!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Cowboy_Dan on February 08, 2017, 05:42:41 AM
Could you please do the 314-205 SP (310679) and the 311-247 FN (Whisper), both in 7.62x54R?  I know I have asked for a couple of these already.  And thank you for being so generous with your time.

P.S.  the 314-205 SP (310679) is still an active group buy, so I don't know if you would even be able to do it just know.  In any event, there's no need to hurry about a mould that doesn't exist yet.  If you can get all the info you need from the drawing it is listed under its .310" diameter.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on February 10, 2017, 12:40:40 PM
Thanks for your comments guys, got tied up running a prescribed burn on a portion of my ranch this week.

(http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/ranch/burn/2017/nw_01a.jpg)
Will get the data your requested Cowboy.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on February 11, 2017, 07:38:07 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for have been posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge. It will be added to the back of the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates, please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your own risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Cowboy_Dan on February 13, 2017, 12:10:27 AM
Thank you sir, I actually changed my order on the 311-247 to include gascheck cavities based on what Quickload's conclusions.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on February 14, 2017, 12:56:24 PM
Thank you sir, I actually changed my order on the 311-247 to include gascheck cavities based on what Quickload's conclusions.
Good deal! A good choice of powders and velocities, a lot of utility! I was side tracked with family health stuff for a few days, I will get the request finished up today.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Rick R on February 15, 2017, 02:28:56 AM
Apologies if you've already run it and I missed it, could you run the 311-247 gas checked through the .308 Winchester.  My Ruger rifles have 1:10 barrels hopefully it'll stabilize. 
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on February 15, 2017, 06:05:35 PM
P.S.  the 314-205 SP (310679) is still an active group buy, so I don't know if you would even be able to do it just know.  In any event, there's no need to hurry about a mould that doesn't exist yet.  If you can get all the info you need from the drawing it is listed under its .310" diameter.

Cowboy, I finally figured out the confusion in finding the bullet in the database and; hence, being slow with coming forth with the data. There is a: 310-205-SP (310679) & a 314-210-SP (314679) which are one in the same other than overall bullet diameter. When I would run a search for "314-205-SP (310679)" nothing would come up because the numbers in your request are mixed a bit. I ran the data for the 310-205-SP (310679) and it will be valid for either as long as the bullet diameter is not over .003" of your groove diameter. In other words, with a .308" groove the data for the 310679 (+.002" over) is appropriate, but not the 314679 (+.006" over). Whatever your bullet minus groove sum is, the data is valid as long as the number is not over +.003".

Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for are posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge, and it will be added to the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates; please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Cowboy_Dan on February 15, 2017, 10:46:04 PM
Thank you, sorry for any confusion I caused you.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on February 15, 2017, 10:48:48 PM
Thank you, sorry for any confusion I caused you.

Absolutely no problem, I learned a bit about NOE lineage as well!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Rick R on February 16, 2017, 12:12:22 AM
Thanks!

I'll be cooking something up tomorrow.   8)
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: RenegadeRN on February 23, 2017, 02:56:59 PM
I want to thank you for all your hard work and support for those of us using NOE and RD products. Over the last few months I have acquired a handful of NOE Molds. I am a newbee to casting, but I have to say that just having NOE Molds has helped a lot...as have the posters on these forums. I've scoured the forum and have downloaded some of the QL Notes/Load data for handgun data. I honestly haven't seen data for the following and if at all possible request the following:

300 Savage     311-169-RN   311291
308 WIN         311-169-RN   311291


35 WHELEN     360-280-RN 360009
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Mountain Man on February 24, 2017, 12:53:55 AM
Hello Mr. Ranch dog, I'm back with another request my good man. The gas check version of the NOE 311-198-SP ( 311365).
I was hoping to try it in both my 300 blackout and my 30-06. For the 300 blackout load card can you include A5744 powder please for the data? And for the 30-06 load card can you include A5744 and ramshot big game powder please. Thank you very much my friend.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on February 24, 2017, 09:04:56 PM
Okay guys, will get started on this data in the morning.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on February 25, 2017, 02:20:13 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for are posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge, and it will be added to the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates; please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on February 26, 2017, 03:09:06 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for are posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge, and it will be added to the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates; please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Mountain Man on February 26, 2017, 04:15:29 PM
Thank you for the new load cards Ranch dog. Just what I needed. Have a great rest of your day.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: RenegadeRN on February 27, 2017, 10:02:46 PM
Thank you RD for your awesome help and quick work. You are very appreciated!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on February 28, 2017, 01:25:00 PM
You're welcome fellows!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Kitika on March 12, 2017, 12:50:07 PM
Could I have data for the 460-350RF in both flat and hollow point in 45-70? Also is it possible to get data for this in 45-70? It isn't maade yet but close to being in production! Very keen on this mold!  http://noebulletmolds.com/smf/index.php/topic,1887.0.html
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on March 12, 2017, 09:06:08 PM
Could I have data for the 460-350RF in both flat and hollow point in 45-70? Also is it possible to get data for this in 45-70? It isn't maade yet but close to being in production! Very keen on this mold!  http://noebulletmolds.com/smf/index.php/topic,1887.0.html

The data for the 460-350  45-70 Govt is on the Ranch Dog side of the data site: http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/data/RDO/40/460360RF_4570Govt.pdf

I will request the completed HTC459-500-SP drawing from Al.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Kitika on March 13, 2017, 12:17:10 AM
Thanks Ranchdog didn't see that on the site.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on March 15, 2017, 12:45:41 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:

Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for are posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge, and it will be added to the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates; please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: GregP42 on March 19, 2017, 05:29:35 PM
Ranch Dog,

I could have sworn you had posted this, 412-237-SWC 41 Mag, but I can only find the data on your site for the 41 spec.
If you could I would love to have it for the 41 Mag too.

There was also a boolit that is no longer listed so I don't know if he still has the info, but there was a mold I got a few years ago just marked 41LFN from cast booits forum buy back in the day. I have used it, but was just wanting some more ideas on other powders I could use besides my standby of Unique. If you can get ahold of the info I would love it for both mag and spec.

Thanks,
Greg
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on March 21, 2017, 12:10:01 PM
Ranch Dog,

I could have sworn you had posted this, 412-237-SWC 41 Mag, but I can only find the data on your site for the 41 spec.
If you could I would love to have it for the 41 Mag too.

There was also a boolit that is no longer listed so I don't know if he still has the info, but there was a mold I got a few years ago just marked 41LFN from cast booits forum buy back in the day. I have used it, but was just wanting some more ideas on other powders I could use besides my standby of Unique. If you can get ahold of the info I would love it for both mag and spec.

Thanks,
Greg


I guess the data for the referenced bullet was not worked up for the 41 Mag, knocked it out this morning.

If you can figure out what bullet the "41LFN" was; a drawing or the bullet nose and overall lengths, plus weight, I can run it. If you cannot get it identified, just get those averages from 10 of your bullets.
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:

Just a reminder, I normally can only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for are posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge, and it will be added to the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates; please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: GregP42 on March 21, 2017, 02:56:21 PM
Thank you for the data, :) And I found the bullet, 413-230-LFN is it. I missed it the other night when I was looking for it.

Greg
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on March 22, 2017, 01:07:19 PM
Thank you for the data, :) And I found the bullet, 413-230-LFN is it. I missed it the other night when I was looking for it.

Greg
You're welcome. I will look it up and get data for it, but it will be Thursday/Friday before I run it. I'm taking my dad to Houston today for a post surgery Dr. visit. I'd rather be doing load data than facing the drive.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: GregP42 on March 22, 2017, 10:01:35 PM

You're welcome. I will look it up and get data for it, but it will be Thursday/Friday before I run it. I'm taking my dad to Houston today for a post surgery Dr. visit. I'd rather be doing load data than facing the drive.

Just drive careful, hope everything with your dad is ok.

Greg
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on March 24, 2017, 11:40:40 AM
Just drive careful, hope everything with your dad is ok.

Thank you, Greg, it all went well. He is recovering from a shoulder replacement, just about done with it.

I posted the info for the 413-230-LFN 41 Spl, but not the 41 Mag. When the crimp groove on this bullet is used, it exceeds the cartridge overall length.

(http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/data/images/413230LFN_41Mag.jpg)

Not sure if you can use data at the 1.660" length? If so, I will post it.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Birgen on April 07, 2017, 03:40:02 AM
Hi Ranch Dog,

Can you create a load note for the 6,5mm Arisaka, using the 268-140-FN HUNTER mold?
Can you also include the following powders:
- IMR 4198
- Accurate 5744

Thanks,
Birgen
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 07, 2017, 12:09:12 PM
Hi Ranch Dog,

Can you create a load note for the 6,5mm Arisaka, using the 268-140-FN HUNTER mold?
Can you also include the following powders:
- IMR 4198
- Accurate 5744

Thanks,
Birgen
Could you provide a link to the bullet you are referencing please, it is not in my database that Al gave me.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on April 07, 2017, 08:01:15 PM
Hi Ranch Dog,

I would be very interested in load data for the new 358-128-RN GC in 9mm Luger.
http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/images/N.O.E._Bullet_Moulds_358-126-RN_(GC)_Sketch.Jpg (http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/images/N.O.E._Bullet_Moulds_358-126-RN_(GC)_Sketch.Jpg)

Thank you
Onkel
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 08, 2017, 12:10:19 AM
I will put the last two requests on the list. I'm probably not going to run any data for 10 days, I will be doing grandkid stuff. Have them for Spring Break.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Birgen on April 08, 2017, 02:13:16 PM
Hi Ranch Dog,

Can you create a load note for the 6,5mm Arisaka, using the 268-140-FN HUNTER mold?
Can you also include the following powders:
- IMR 4198
- Accurate 5744

Thanks,
Birgen
Could you provide a link to the bullet you are referencing please, it is not in my database that Al gave me.

Here is the link to the mold.
http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/index.php?cPath=27_451&osCsid=3e18i3oov5rplv0ijp7lpqtnn1


Kind regards,
Birgen

Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: GregP42 on April 08, 2017, 06:47:19 PM
Just drive careful, hope everything with your dad is ok.

Thank you, Greg, it all went well. He is recovering from a shoulder replacement, just about done with it.

I posted the info for the 413-230-LFN 41 Spl, but not the 41 Mag. When the crimp groove on this bullet is used, it exceeds the cartridge overall length.

(http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/data/images/413230LFN_41Mag.jpg)

Not sure if you can use data at the 1.660" length? If so, I will post it.

Weird, I didn't think it was that long, but it fits in my Ruger and S&W just fine.

Greg
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: jwt on April 14, 2017, 01:49:56 PM
Could you work up the load chart for the NOE 460-315-RF in a 458 WinMag?
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on April 16, 2017, 06:37:52 PM
Ranch Dog,

I am about to start loading the NOE 148gn Hollow Base Wadcutter in .38 Special. I use only Vihtavuori N310 and N320 and sometimes HP for target loads. The slower powders just won't give the required accuracy.
http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/index.php?cPath=35_304 (http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/index.php?cPath=35_304)
Since your rule is to include only powders that will fill more than half the case those would not be in any charts for 38 Special. Would you consider making an exception for target use in this caliber?

Onkel
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 25, 2017, 01:28:46 PM
Apologies for the delay. Came home from my 10 day trip to a wide range of issues that demanded my attention. Almost makes it not worth leaving.

Waiting on drawings for both the 268-140-FN and 358-128-RN. The product image does not have the data I need to run the data.

Ranch Dog,

I am about to start loading the NOE 148gn Hollow Base Wadcutter in .38 Special. I use only Vihtavuori N310 and N320 and sometimes HP for target loads. The slower powders just won't give the required accuracy.
http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/index.php?cPath=35_304 (http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/index.php?cPath=35_304)
Since your rule is to include only powders that will fill more than half the case those would not be in any charts for 38 Special. Would you consider making an exception for target use in this caliber?

Onkel

I went ahead and ran the two Vihtavuori powders individually, these numbers would be considered a Max load. COAL is the length of the brass (1.135"), and velocity from a 5" barrel.

N310, 2.0-grains, 52% fill, 748 FPS, and 100% burnt.

N320, 2.5-grains, 66% fill, 816 FPS, and 100% burnt.

Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I usually only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for are posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge, and it will be added to the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates; please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 25, 2017, 10:37:18 PM
Got another one done!

Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I usually only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for are posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge, and it will be added to the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates; please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 26, 2017, 11:34:48 AM
This should bring all the outstanding requests as filled. Please let me know if I missed one.

Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:

Just a reminder, I usually only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for are posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge, and it will be added to the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates; please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on April 28, 2017, 07:34:30 PM
I went ahead and ran the two Vihtavuori powders individually, these numbers would be considered a Max load. COAL is the length of the brass (1.135"), and velocity from a 5" barrel.

N310, 2.0-grains, 52% fill, 748 FPS, and 100% burnt.

N320, 2.5-grains, 66% fill, 816 FPS, and 100% burnt.



Excellent, thanks!
I am making up a couple to try.

And thanks for the 358-128-RN 9mm Luger
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: GregP42 on April 29, 2017, 02:44:47 AM
Ranchdog,

Thank you very much for this, but I think you have the 25k and the 30k reversed in the spreadsheet.

Greg

Got another one done!

Update!

Load Notes Posted:
  • 413-230-LFN 41 Mag
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:
  • 268-140-FN Hunter 6.5 Arisaka
  • 358-128-RN 9mm Luger
Just a reminder, I usually only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for are posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge, and it will be added to the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates; please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 29, 2017, 10:37:32 AM
Ranchdog,

Thank you very much for this, but I think you have the 25k and the 30k reversed in the spreadsheet.

Greg

Thank you for the catch Greg, not sure why that happened, it might be because I stopped the first run when I noticed the OAL issue. Started everything again and it looks like everything is good. Posted revision #1, chunk the original.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Closey on May 05, 2017, 07:34:39 AM
Hi RD when you have time,  I'd be interested in load notes for the •268-140-FN Hunter in both 6.5x52 Carcano and 6.5x55 swede.
Thanks,
Closey
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on May 05, 2017, 01:19:44 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:

Just a reminder, I usually only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for are posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge, and it will be added to the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates; please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Closey on May 08, 2017, 07:35:41 PM
Many thanks RD, much appreciated.
Regards
Closey
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on May 09, 2017, 11:32:29 AM
You're welcome!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Mountain Man on May 30, 2017, 09:33:49 PM
Mr. Ranch Dog, I have another request my friend. Can you make me a load card for the 453-235-HP for the 45 acp please. Can you also please include ramshot silouhette powder and true blue? I would like to try there first. Thank you very much for your help.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on May 31, 2017, 12:50:15 PM
Mr. Ranch Dog, I have another request my friend. Can you make me a load card for the 453-235-HP for the 45 acp please. Can you also please include ramshot silouhette powder and true blue? I would like to try there first. Thank you very much for your help.
Would you have a product page reference or bullet number?
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Mountain Man on May 31, 2017, 01:13:32 PM
Mr. Ranch Dog, I have another request my friend. Can you make me a load card for the 453-235-HP for the 45 acp please. Can you also please include ramshot silouhette powder and true blue? I would like to try there first. Thank you very much for your help.
Would you have a product page reference or bullet number?

Good Morning Michael,
I'm sorry for the confusion there. This is the main mold number, and I was going to be using the RG setup and the HP pins for the 230 ish grain version in my 45 acp ( 453-235-swc hp ).

NOE 453-238-SWC (453432)

Thank you again for your help,
Mike
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on May 31, 2017, 01:24:12 PM
Okay, got it. This is a 45 Colt bullet with a crimp groove so are you going to use that groove (45 ACP revolver) or will you seat the bullet with the case mouth flush with the top band (semi-auto)?
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Mountain Man on May 31, 2017, 02:51:14 PM
Okay, got it. This is a 45 Colt bullet with a crimp groove so are you going to use that groove (45 ACP revolver) or will you seat the bullet with the case mouth flush with the top band (semi-auto)?

I was going to seat it all the way for my 1911. I was figuring somewhere around 1.235 but would also like your input. Hoping to get close to 900 fps with standard load pressure. Thank you for clarifying.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on June 01, 2017, 10:26:59 PM
(http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/data/images/45Auto_435238SWCHP_chambered.jpg)

I don't think you will see that type of overall length. Really, I'm not sure this will work at all but that's me. I think the cartridge OAL is going to be to short for reliable function and with the large .453 cylinder down in the short case, I think you might experience return to battery malfunctions with the case hanging up between the base of the bullet and web of the case. At least, the case is going to have a pretty good bulge in the area associated with the base of the bullet. My worry is also with the 90° forward edge of the top band against the 90° step, pressures might be unpredictable and there will probably be lead shaved off the bullet as it passes the step.

NOE has some mighty fine 45 Auto bullets...
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Mountain Man on June 01, 2017, 11:47:56 PM
Thank you for trying to find a solution there. That's disappointing but that's on me, not on you at all. I had been reading several threads and I thought done my homework here with a design that would cycle and work fine.
I am hoping I can return the mold. Otherwise I really made a mess then.
Please have a great weekend Sir and take care,

Mike
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Mountain Man on June 02, 2017, 01:03:53 AM
I thought I would mention this to again show how awesome NOE is.
I sent Al a message and within 30 minutes had a reply stating he would honor my request and exchange the mold for another. Definitely turned my frown upside down.
After browsing some more in the store website, I think I've decided on one of your excellent designs Mr. Ranch dog. The TL452-230-rf in the RG version.
I also see that you have already done a load card for it, so I know it's a good mold for the application.
May I ask, how do you like it for the 45acp in an auto?
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on June 02, 2017, 12:24:31 PM
I thought I would mention this to again show how awesome NOE is.
I sent Al a message and within 30 minutes had a reply stating he would honor my request and exchange the mold for another. Definitely turned my frown upside down.
After browsing some more in the store website, I think I've decided on one of your excellent designs Mr. Ranch dog. The TL452-230-rf in the RG version.
I also see that you have already done a load card for it, so I know it's a good mold for the application.
May I ask, how do you like it for the 45acp in an auto?

Well, I bet my life with that bullet as my primary role for it is self defense.

(http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/Firearms/PT745/Images/TL457235RF_01.jpg)

All of my semi-auto designs started life as offerings for the over-dimension barrels of the Taurus semi-autos. It is tough to come up with a new design for a semi-auto, but Taurus offered the opportunity with all of their offerings; starting with their 25 Auto needing a .255" bullet, and all the way through their 45 Auto needing a .457" bullet. Here is a composite I made to show what I see from a normal range session with the bullet.

(http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/Firearms/PT745/Targets/ragged_hole_composite.jpg)

I've been trying to use up some old Hercules Unique with this bullet/cartridge combo.

(http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/Firearms/PT745/TMT/cartridge/PT745_Load_03.jpg)

The TL452-230-RF came about from an NOE customer's request that my original design be redrawn for pistols with SAAMI spec barrels.

It does not surprise me that Al was quick to respond and offer the resolution he did as that is why you buy from an outfit like his, service!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Mountain Man on June 02, 2017, 01:56:08 PM
Nice looking finished products and also great groups. I think you sold me there. I was still tossing around another mold ( 452-230-hp small hole) but after your post, I think I'm going with this one instead.
Have you ever tried the hollow point version or did you just stay with the flat point only?
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Kitika on June 23, 2017, 11:53:10 AM
Can I have data for the HTC 311 170gn that is in last call group buys? Cartridge is 30-30 and I would like to see some data for H4350 with it if at all possible. Thank you!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ozarkspirit on June 25, 2017, 03:45:16 PM
Signed up for the HTC458soc 365-RG-BR cornmastah has posted

Would love to see a table for the 458SOCOM

16" barrel, 1/14 twist

Lil gun, H110, and IMR4198 are popular powders for this cartridge.

Thank you in advance.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on June 25, 2017, 08:20:42 PM
Can I have data for the HTC 311 170gn that is in last call group buys? Cartridge is 30-30 and I would like to see some data for H4350 with it if at all possible. Thank you!
I've requested the complete drawing from SwedeNelson.

Signed up for the HTC458soc 365-RG-BR cornmastah has posted

Would love to see a table for the 458SOCOM

16" barrel, 1/14 twist

Lil gun, H110, and IMR4198 are popular powders for this cartridge.

Thank you in advance.

I did a quick search but couldn't find it. I will need a link to the bullet or buy that you are referencing.

Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: cornmastah on June 26, 2017, 02:42:27 PM
Ranch Dog, here is the bullet that he is referencing:

http://noebulletmolds.com/smf/index.php/topic,2136.0.html (http://noebulletmolds.com/smf/index.php/topic,2136.0.html)

But it would be good to get the official finalized drawings from Swede before punching in the numbers.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ozarkspirit on June 26, 2017, 11:44:41 PM
http://noebulletmolds.com/smf/index.php/topic,2136.msg19181.html#msg19181

Here you go.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on June 27, 2017, 09:48:44 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I usually only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for are posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge, and it will be added to the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates; please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on June 27, 2017, 09:53:31 PM
Can I have data for the HTC 311 170gn that is in last call group buys? Cartridge is 30-30 and I would like to see some data for H4350 with it if at all possible. Thank you!

H4350 did not make the cut for the data, efficiency is what dropped it as the percent burnt leaving the barrel was 75. The cutoff for the data sheets is 80%. 30.8-grains would provide that Max plain base load. It fills 99% of the usable case. Hopes this helps.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Kitika on June 28, 2017, 12:17:11 AM
Thanks ranchdog!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on June 28, 2017, 10:58:02 AM
Thanks ranchdog!
You're welcome. Waiting for the complete drawing on the Socom bullet.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on June 28, 2017, 07:57:00 PM
Signed up for the HTC458soc 365-RG-BR cornmastah has posted

Would love to see a table for the 458SOCOM

16" barrel, 1/14 twist

Lil gun, H110, and IMR4198 are popular powders for this cartridge.

Thank you in advance.

The bullet drawing that Al Nelson sent me was the HTC458-353-RF. Data will be good for all the slight variations of this design.


Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:

Just a reminder, I usually only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for are posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge, and it will be added to the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates; please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: GregP42 on June 29, 2017, 12:56:27 AM
Ranchdog,

Could you do a chart for the 460-186-CB http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/index.php?cPath=42_147 it looks like it will be very fun.

Thanks,
Greg
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on June 29, 2017, 02:36:34 AM
Ranchdog,

Could you do a chart for the 460-186-CB http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/index.php?cPath=42_147 it looks like it will be very fun.

Thanks,
Greg

What cartridge Greg?
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: GregP42 on June 29, 2017, 02:57:51 AM
Ranchdog,

Could you do a chart for the 460-186-CB http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/index.php?cPath=42_147 it looks like it will be very fun.

Thanks,
Greg

What cartridge Greg?

DOH! Sorry about that,  45-70 please. I was thinking it, but didn't type it. Will be mostly shooting it out of my trapdoor and rollingblock.

Greg
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: ccooper@mmist.ca on July 02, 2017, 01:52:57 AM
Hey guys, I just purchased a 432-290-FN 432640 mold and was wondering if you might be able to provide me with a suitable load for that 44rem mag bullet.  The powders I use currently for that round are IMR4227 and H110...  The round itself is for my Marlin 1894 rifle that seems to have the oversized barrel...  But that's another story.  Anyways, thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on July 02, 2017, 12:26:30 PM
Hey guys, I just purchased a 432-290-FN 432640 mold and was wondering if you might be able to provide me with a suitable load for that 44rem mag bullet.  The powders I use currently for that round are IMR4227 and H110...  The round itself is for my Marlin 1894 rifle that seems to have the oversized barrel...  But that's another story.  Anyways, thanks in advance!

I've worked with the data for this bullet with the 444 Marlin, and I'm not sure if it was designed for carbine or rifle use. It has a long nose that doesn't work well for the 444 Marlin, and after spending 2 hours with it this morning, the same can be said with the 44 Mag. So that crimp groove and cartridge mouth meet within the confines of the 1.610" Max cartridge OAL of the 44 Mag, the brass must be trimmed quite far back.  I've owned an 1894 44 Mag for a long time and know that it is very unforgiving of cartridge OALs that exceed the max.

I've calculated the change in case capacity that comes with the trimming and then ran the data. Both your powders choices were in the data run results. Whenever cases are trimmed this far back there are other consequences that appear such as not being able to apply a crimp. Additionally, the brass gets thicker the further back it is trimmed so the cartridge might not chamber. Please cycle a couple of dummy cartridges through the action and chamber to ensure this will work before you begin your reloading effort.

Best of luck, use of the data is at your own risk.



Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:

Just a reminder, I usually only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for are posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge, and it will be added to the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates; please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on July 02, 2017, 08:33:03 PM
Hey guys, I just purchased a 432-290-FN 432640 mold and was wondering if you might be able to provide me with a suitable load for that 44rem mag bullet.  The powders I use currently for that round are IMR4227 and H110...  The round itself is for my Marlin 1894 rifle that seems to have the oversized barrel...  But that's another story.  Anyways, thanks in advance!

I've worked with the data for this bullet with the 444 Marlin, and I'm not sure if it was designed for carbine or rifle use. It has a long nose that doesn't work well for the 444 Marlin, and after spending 2 hours with it this morning, the same can be said with the 44 Mag. So that crimp groove and cartridge mouth meet within the confines of the 1.610" Max cartridge OAL of the 44 Mag, the brass must be trimmed quite far back.  I've owned an 1894 44 Mag for a long time and know that it is very unforgiving of cartridge OALs that exceed the max.

I've calculated the change in case capacity that comes with the trimming and then ran the data. Both your powders choices were in the data run results. Whenever cases are trimmed this far back there are other consequences that appear such as not being able to apply a crimp. Additionally, the brass gets thicker the further back it is trimmed so the cartridge might not chamber. Please cycle a couple of dummy cartridges through the action and chamber to ensure this will work before you begin your reloading effort.

Best of luck, use of the data is at your own risk.

Swede Nelson and I discussed the 432-290-RF, a bullet designed for 44 Mag revolvers with long cylinders. The nose is inappropriate for the 44 Mag and 444 Marlin long-guns. If you have purchased this mold for use in the 1894, please contact NOE and he will figure out what you need. I have pulled the data on this design.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: ccooper@mmist.ca on July 04, 2017, 01:01:02 AM
Excellent guys!  I was at the range yesterday testing out some loads with a 1.700 length and had issues with feeding.  So, went home and setup a dummy round at a length of 1.605 and it cycled flawlessly.  Now to try out complete rounds at the range later on this week.  I must admit though, my groupings with that 1894 marlin went from 4.5-5" down to 1.5 with the new 290gr 432 bullet.  I'm definitely sold and it shows that the 1894 marlin (post remlin) requires larger diameter bullets! 

Additionally, just looked at the notes and I'll  make sure my cartridge length falls within the values spec'd in the notes.

Thanks for the help!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: ccooper@mmist.ca on July 04, 2017, 01:31:50 AM
Hey Ranch Dog, just read your last message.  I'll talk to NOE to see what mold they recommend for my application. 
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Birgen on July 04, 2017, 07:06:43 PM
Hi Ranch Dog,

Can you create the reloading data for the .308 Win using these bullets:
- 311-202-RN 311299
- TL313-150-RF 7.62x39 (sized to .310)

Thanks!

Birgen
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on July 05, 2017, 12:24:34 PM
I will get Birgen's next request out tomorrow but it will be about two weeks before I can fill others. Swede gave me a list of bullets he would like data for and I'm going to need to work on it. Go ahead and list your request and I will fill them as soon as I can.


Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I usually only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for are posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge, and it will be added to the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates; please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Birgen on July 08, 2017, 10:49:11 PM
I will get Birgen's next request out tomorrow but it will be about two weeks before I can fill others. Swede gave me a list of bullets he would like data for and I'm going to need to work on it. Go ahead and list your request and I will fill them as soon as I can.


Update!


Hi Ranchdog,

Thanks for the 150gr RF/.308win data sheet. Do you also have the 200gr RN/.308win data sheet available like you mentioned?

Thanks,
Birgen
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on July 09, 2017, 10:52:11 AM
Sorry for the delay on the 200 grain bullet data, I've gotten tied up with family and ranch. I should have some downtime later today and will get it out.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Birgen on July 09, 2017, 11:07:46 AM
No problem sir, take your time.
We all appreciate the time and effort you put in these load notes!

Thanks!
Birgen
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on July 09, 2017, 03:23:15 PM
Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:


Just a reminder, I usually only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for are posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge, and it will be added to the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates; please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: RKing22 on July 24, 2017, 12:34:32 AM
 Good evening, first I would like to thank you profusely,  for doing these workups! They are tremendously helpful in choosing powders to begin load development.
 Now a request, the NOE 360200fn (rcbs) in the 35rem. I'm shooting it in a rem 141 and it shoots great. Mine runs 224 gr in my alloy so it would be great to see what the software says about it. Especially AA4064, rl7 , and lvrevolution if its in the data base.
 Anyway thanks for all your effort!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on July 25, 2017, 12:37:18 PM
Good morning and thank you for your kind words.

I will get the data you requested generated today. Unfortunately, LEVERevolution isn't in the QL database.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on July 26, 2017, 01:03:13 PM
I will get the data you requested generated today. Unfortunately, LEVERevolution isn't in the QL database.
Took a little longer than I thought. Need to get out and take care of some ranch work before the heat builds but I will be back with some info on how I come up with a load for the LEVERevolution. It is based on the BL-(C)2 load.


Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:Just a reminder, I usually only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for are posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge, and it will be added to the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates; please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on July 27, 2017, 12:01:04 PM
I will get the data you requested generated today. Unfortunately, LEVERevolution isn't in the QL database.
Took a little longer than I thought. Need to get out and take care of some ranch work before the heat builds but I will be back with some info on how I come up with a load for the LEVERevolution. It is based on the BL-(C)2 load.

Each year I hope that QuickLoad's update will include LEVERevolution, but it hasn't and I really doubt that it will because of its intended purpose. I have pressure trace equipment but it's still a guess where to start and I hate just banging away in small increments to get to the max. What I have noticed is that its performance is very similar to BL-C(2), so I took every load that Hodgdon offers with LVR and compared it to the same Hodgdon's loads for cartridge and bullet using BLC2. With that, I've been able to use a BLC2 load to give me a LVR load.Using the Max BL-(C)2 load with the factors you would get:
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: RKing22 on July 28, 2017, 10:15:36 PM
 Many thanks for the load workup. I had settled on a RL7 load that seemed reasonable. Was concerned with the additional bullet weight. With the pressure range of the 35rem there's not much to go by visually. Your data coincided almost exactly with my chrno data and shows the load to be reasonably below pmax. Thanks for doing the research to get something on LEVERolution,  definitely needs some range work on my part, darn :)
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on July 29, 2017, 12:22:35 PM
Many thanks for the load workup. I had settled on a RL7 load that seemed reasonable. Was concerned with the additional bullet weight. With the pressure range of the 35rem there's not much to go by visually. Your data coincided almost exactly with my chrno data and shows the load to be reasonably below pmax. Thanks for doing the research to get something on LEVERolution,  definitely needs some range work on my part, darn :)

You're welcome. Good luck with your shooting!
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Paper Puncher on July 30, 2017, 03:44:06 PM
Ranch Dog

I want to say thanks for all the time you put into running these Load Notes.  It is very much appreciated.

Between Al's last sale and my grandson deciding that my M1 carbine is "super cool" I am now the proud owner of a 311-115-HP (GC).

I was hoping you could run this.  I am not sure if it would be worth running as both HP and FN?

Thanks
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on July 31, 2017, 12:28:27 PM
Thank you for your comments.

I started working on it this morning but ran out of time, but I should get it done by tomorrow morning. Designs, regardless of PB, GC, HP, etc., have a model number, can you verify that this is the 311316?
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Paper Puncher on July 31, 2017, 12:58:26 PM
Ranch Dog

It is the " 311-115-RN RG4 GC " http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/images/N.O.E._Bullet_Moulds_311-115-HP_(GC)_Sketch.Jpg (http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/images/N.O.E._Bullet_Moulds_311-115-HP_(GC)_Sketch.Jpg)

This will be for the M1 Carbine.

Thanks
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Onkel on July 31, 2017, 10:12:32 PM
Hi Ranch Dog,

I ordered the new 358-161-RN (GC) and would like to use it in several different guns, to begin with .357 Mag, and the 357/45 Grizzly Winchester Magnum. Do you think you could do them? Very much appreciated, as always.

Onkel

http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/images/N.O.E._Bullet_Moulds_358-158-RN_(GC)_Sketch.Jpg (http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/images/N.O.E._Bullet_Moulds_358-158-RN_(GC)_Sketch.Jpg)
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on August 01, 2017, 11:39:28 AM
Ranch Dog

It is the " 311-115-RN RG4 GC " http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/images/N.O.E._Bullet_Moulds_311-115-HP_(GC)_Sketch.Jpg (http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/images/N.O.E._Bullet_Moulds_311-115-HP_(GC)_Sketch.Jpg)

This will be for the M1 Carbine.

Thanks
Okay, that is not the bullet I was working with so I will need to request some additional information from Swede.

Hi Ranch Dog,

I ordered the new 358-161-RN (GC) and would like to use it in several different guns, to begin with .357 Mag, and the 357/45 Grizzly Winchester Magnum. Do you think you could do them? Very much appreciated, as always.

Onkel

http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/images/N.O.E._Bullet_Moulds_358-158-RN_(GC)_Sketch.Jpg (http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/images/N.O.E._Bullet_Moulds_358-158-RN_(GC)_Sketch.Jpg)

I will need to get this design from Swede as well.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on August 01, 2017, 11:46:17 AM
Ranch Dog

It is the " 311-115-RN RG4 GC " http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/images/N.O.E._Bullet_Moulds_311-115-HP_(GC)_Sketch.Jpg (http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/images/N.O.E._Bullet_Moulds_311-115-HP_(GC)_Sketch.Jpg)

This will be for the M1 Carbine.

Thanks
Okay, that is not the bullet I was working with so I will need to request some additional information from Swede.

Hi Ranch Dog,

I ordered the new 358-161-RN (GC) and would like to use it in several different guns, to begin with .357 Mag, and the 357/45 Grizzly Winchester Magnum. Do you think you could do them? Very much appreciated, as always.

Onkel

http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/images/N.O.E._Bullet_Moulds_358-158-RN_(GC)_Sketch.Jpg (http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/images/N.O.E._Bullet_Moulds_358-158-RN_(GC)_Sketch.Jpg)

I will need to get this design from Swede as well. I will not be able to help you with the 357/45 Grizzly Winchester Magnum unless you can provide a cartridge drawing with dimensions and the water volume of a fired case.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Paper Puncher on August 01, 2017, 12:38:49 PM
Thanks Ranch Dog

Sorry I wasn't clear on my first post. 
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on August 01, 2017, 02:35:25 PM
Thanks Ranch Dog

Sorry I wasn't clear on my first post. 
It's all good.  Should have it done in the morning.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on August 03, 2017, 05:48:42 PM
Thanks Ranch Dog

Sorry I wasn't clear on my first post. 
It's all good.  Should have it done in the morning.
I haven't forgotten about you, should have this for you by tomorrow (Friday). Found some software and database issues that were causing some confusion but have it all worked out now.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Paper Puncher on August 04, 2017, 02:20:01 AM
Ranch Dog

I figured you would get to it when you get to it  ;D

Seems like this summer has been extra busy.  Don't worry if it takes a bit. 

All the time and work you put into this is appreciated.

Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on August 09, 2017, 01:13:59 PM
Just want to let you guys know that I haven't forgotten your requests. Al has been working with his bullet database, reorganizing the bullet designation to meet the needs of his new online store. I should have my end of this done in the next day or two and then I will will run the data.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on August 10, 2017, 08:49:49 PM
Swede has finished organizing his bullet identifications, quite an undertaking with 800 moulds being offered. It will cause some confusion initially as to what mould an individual purchased but down the road it will make more sense. The 30 Carbine bullet data that Paper Puncher requested data for is the 311-121-HP H5.

I'm not going to go into the details of the designation changes but just get the data posted. As customers request data, I'm going to need to figure out exactly which design they are requesting data for but this will all work out in the long run.

I've archived all the previous Load Note sheets and will start fresh with as new requests are made. You will also notice a cartridge directory, an image of the cartridge that produced the data will also be available.


Update!

Load Notes Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:
Just a reminder, I usually only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for are posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge, and it will be added to the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates; please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Paper Puncher on August 11, 2017, 08:29:25 PM
Ranch Dog

Thank you very much for taking the time to run this.   

Wow I am the first one on the new list LOL

Thanks again and have a great weekend.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on August 13, 2017, 12:23:18 PM
Update!

Load Notes and Cartridge Drawings Posted:
Find at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data

Load Notes Pending:

Just a reminder, I usually only generate one Load Note sheet a day.

Check at http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data to see if the notes you are looking for are posted. If not, make a specific request via a post using the bullet ID profile and cartridge, and it will be added to the list. Custom data; specific powder requests, cartridges not in my database, and bores not within .003" of the bullet's design diameter, cannot be provided. Data is generated within the confines of templates; please see any Load Notes as a sample of what can be provided.

It is a good idea to bookmark the link above once opened.

Please remember that this data is for NOE's and RDO's use. Your use of our Load Notes is at your risk and only meant for a comparison against other sources.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Cowboy_Dan on August 30, 2017, 02:36:47 PM
As a general query, how does Quickload determine the "Minimum FPS" entry on the load sheets?  I ask because I want to convert this number to different twists to match the guns I plan to use, eg. 1 in 10" is listed on a 9mm sheet while my barrel is 1 in 16".
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on September 17, 2017, 12:56:05 PM
As a general query, how does Quickload determine the "Minimum FPS" entry on the load sheets?  I ask because I want to convert this number to different twists to match the guns I plan to use, eg. 1 in 10" is listed on a 9mm sheet while my barrel is 1 in 16".
Sorry that I've not been back to this topic for a reply, been really busy on the ranch.

That number is actually being calculated by the TMT bullet design software. TMT provides an online calculator (http://www.tmtpages.com/twistrate.htm).

The requests have slowed to a snail's pace so I'm going to officially start my "hunting season" break from this work. Actually, the ranch and family has kept me busy to the point that I have a tough time turning out the one data set I've promised Swede each week.

Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Cowboy_Dan on September 17, 2017, 09:51:05 PM
Thanks for the response, RD.  Bookmarked the page, should be fun to play with.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: GregP42 on September 27, 2017, 11:55:50 PM
Michael,

Could you do the 412-140-DWC in both 41 mag and 41 special? Hope your having a good start of fall.

Greg
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Cowboy_Dan on September 28, 2017, 10:58:37 AM
Hi, I know you said you're taking some time off of this for hunting season, at least I think I remember you posting that.  But, could you do the 311-169-FN (ELCO) in .300 AAC Blackout and .30-30 when you get back to all of this.  No hurry and thanks again.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: gwpercle on September 29, 2017, 10:59:31 AM
RD,  appreciate the load data ! Also the data sent to my Email, I print it and put it in a binder for easy access.
Extremely useful , Thanks.  I clicked on your RD Outdoors/ Data link , but being computer ignorant couldn't find any data ,  I still haven't figured computer stuff out.  What I'm looking for is:

1. NOE 360-160-WC (360432) - 38 Special .

2. NOE 413-215-WC (413432) - 41 Magnum / Special loads ,  loads in 41 magnum cases but at special velocities.

If this is already worked up , let me know and I will do more looking. Thanks Much.

Gary
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Cowboy_Dan on September 30, 2017, 04:20:10 AM
gwpercle, here is a quick rundown of how to use Ranchdog's data site.  When you get to the main page, you should see some links on the upper-left side.  The most important ones are "NOE", "RDO", and "archive".  The .41 cal you ask about is in the archive (sheets generated before Al updated the mould designations).  Click "archive" then "PDF" then "40" (contains data for all calibers from 40 to less than 50).  The RDO area works similarly to the archive section and contains mainly Ranchdog designs.

As yet, the only notes in the NOE section are the ones that have been sent over the emails, as far as I can tell.  To access these click "NOE" then "notes".  That section also contains another link to images of cutaway cartridges for the loadsheets that have been generated as yet under "cartridges".  Hope this helps, it was a little longer than I planned.  I don't think the .38 you are looking for has been done yet.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: gwpercle on October 04, 2017, 06:14:15 PM
Cowboy Dan
Thanks for information,  your detailed instructions helped immensely !
I even printed them out to have handy for future searches .
This helps big time ...You all are doing a great job, much appreciated .
Gary
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Cowboy_Dan on October 05, 2017, 03:06:12 AM
No problem, Gary.  Glad to be of help.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Kitika on October 30, 2017, 02:26:05 PM
Is there a possibility to get data for the 38/45 clerke (necked down 45acp to 38) with the new HTC 358 154 RF BW5? If so can the ADI powders be added aswell like Ap70 and Ap100? I know I'm asking a lot! I've been making up loads for it and don't want to be loading too hot if I can help it.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: GregP42 on November 29, 2017, 01:36:50 AM
RanchDog,

Could you do load data for the 266-140-FN-BY2 Creedmoor, for the 6.5-284 and 6.5 Grendel please?
Hope your having a good winter so far.

Greg
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: GregP42 on December 09, 2017, 01:49:55 AM
Has anyone heard from Michael lately? I haven't seen him post lately.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: GregP42 on December 17, 2017, 01:37:25 PM
So no one has heard from RanchDog/Michael lately? Any one have his contact info that can do a health and welfare check on him? Just a little worried as he normally isn't absent for this long.

 
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Cowboy_Dan on December 17, 2017, 02:50:02 PM
So no one has heard from RanchDog/Michael lately? Any one have his contact info that can do a health and welfare check on him? Just a little worried as he normally isn't absent for this long.

 

As far as I remember, he is taking the winter off for hunting season(s).  I thought he had such posted to this thread, but I was unable to find him saying so recently.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: thumper on March 22, 2018, 03:41:20 PM
Cowboy_Dan,
In one of your posts you indicated how to reach data in the "archives" on the RanchDoginfo site.  When I go to the Ranch Dog site I cannot see either "NOE" or "archive".  And much of the caliber data is missing.
I'm specifically trying to reach the 300 BLK data, anywhere from 150 gr to 247 gr.  Can you help me find this info ?  Thanks.
And I'm using a Mac if that matters.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Cowboy_Dan on March 23, 2018, 04:29:46 AM
Thumper,

Coincidentally I was just looking for some data to refer to someone else and noticed the disappearance.  I hope this project hasn't been scrapped.  Could be it was moved or is being updated somehow.  I have a couple of the data sheets for .300 BO on my phone I can email you if you pm me your address.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 22, 2018, 01:03:35 PM
Greetings fellows, I did take the hunting season off, and I'm doing well, but not likely to return to producing the load sheets because of the work involved in doing this. It can take up to 3 hours to generate and format a single sheet. Honestly, this work has cut into the time that I would normally spend at my bench or up on my range, so something has had to change. Its kind of the same thing that I encountered when I was selling the Lee custom molds. My shooting dropped to nothing, so I closed the business.

I do run data if Al asks, but I'm not taking custom requests anymore. I would suggest that you purchase QuickLoad as it is a bullet caster's best friend.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Cowboy_Dan on April 23, 2018, 10:45:11 AM
Thanks for the update.  Is the old NOE mould data that got taken down gone for good?  Or does Al have plans to put it up on his new website?
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Ranch Dog on April 23, 2018, 11:02:32 AM
He will need to answer this as I just produced the sheets, I'm not sure where they are located since they were moved off my server.
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: SwedeNelson on April 27, 2018, 01:49:30 PM
For now you can find it here:
http://noebulletmolds.com/rd
Will have it a home when the new site is up and going.

Bullet maker, maker
Al Nelson
Title: Re: Load Notes For NOE & RDO Designs
Post by: Cowboy_Dan on April 29, 2018, 12:18:18 PM
Thanks for the link, Al.  I really need to just get my own copy of Quickload one of these days.