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Title: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: SwedeNelson on September 28, 2014, 02:04:28 PM
Keep getting request about our stock runs
So I have started a dated list of what we have coming up
The date is not written in stone - things do come up - but we
will do our best to try and meet them.

311 165Gr. RF (RD)  Week of 10/3
379/382 235Gr. RF (RD)  Week of 10/10
311 175Gr. FN (SAECO #115)  Week of 10/17
363 200Gr. RN (Mk1) Week of 10/24
364 200Gr. RN (38S&W)  Week of 10/31

If there is any that you would like to see us work in
post here and will see what we can do.
You can see a list and drawing of our offerings here
http://noebulletmolds.com/smf/index.php/board,15.0.html (http://noebulletmolds.com/smf/index.php/board,15.0.html)

I hope this helps
Bullet maker, maker
Al Nelson
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: jasonf on September 29, 2014, 05:15:41 AM
how about this one since you already have tooling ;D

460 version of the 358009

i would be in for an rg4
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: PCbullets on October 24, 2014, 08:05:44 PM
309414 150 grain SP 4 or 5 cavity.  I also would like a .458 in 300-350 grain in SP for lever action rifles in cowboy action shooting.  Thanks
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: alexanderkidd on October 27, 2014, 06:09:49 PM
Would you be running anything soon that would work well with .30 carbine?
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: FLYCUTTER on November 26, 2014, 09:22:04 PM
It would be nice to see your 402-200 gr. solid wfn  pb with the RG option to bring it to 180 GR. hp.
I would post the picture but I don't know how to do it.
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: alpha1 on November 30, 2014, 05:01:30 PM
Hi I just read the post concerning the 20% discount on stock moulds I would really like to get my hands on a 314466 152g mould but you have it as being out of stock. Any chance it will reappear before the offer ends.
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: timbuck on November 30, 2014, 06:42:48 PM
It would be nice to see your 402-200 gr. solid wfn  pb with the RG option to bring it to 180 GR. hp.
I would post the picture but I don't know how to do it.
Exactly what I was thinking.  Al, can you convert two over from non rg?????

http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product_info.php?cPath=39&products_id=1338 (http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product_info.php?cPath=39&products_id=1338)

I am thinking this mold, converted.
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: 762sultan on December 01, 2014, 05:31:17 AM
I would like a 314466 152 gr  FN mold or a 312466 gr RN mold. Thanks!
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: SSG Oldfart on December 06, 2014, 09:21:36 PM
311 165Gr. RF (RD) ???Did this run?? website showed out of stock?? :o
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: Low Budget Shooter on December 12, 2014, 10:11:28 AM
Swede, I really like your H&G #68 aluminum mold.  I would love for you to make some in 4-cavity in brass.  Thanks!  Jeff
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: M. W. Curtess on February 05, 2015, 11:51:16 AM
I want to sign up for the 160 gr. C.E.Harris .312"  5 cavity (aluminum preferred) GC.  If possible, I would prefer to pre-pay, hopefully to avoid getting ""bumped" or "pre-empted" (or whatever happened last time)?
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: SwedeNelson on February 05, 2015, 04:27:15 PM
M. W. Curtess

We are not set up to take pre-payments - Sorry
Post a "I want" on the thread and will see if we can make it work

Bullet maker, maker
Al Nelson
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: d@westlane on April 23, 2015, 12:25:24 PM

RE: 312/316  160 GN FN Ed Harris design  4 cavity aluminium  all GC

I want to order/request/ pay for up-front or whatever is necessary to get a mould from the 4/28 run that has same nose diameters but  will size clean and gas ck to .316 .

I believe I saw a reply that the nose area would be + .002 compared to the original Harris design. Here is how my RUS and CHI  SKS as well as 3 commercial   bore diameters measure with precision gage pins:

CHI .301/.302
                              ]  groove dias. on the SKS slug at .313/.3134
RUS .300/.301

Green Mountain meant for 7.62 X 39:
 
 bbl #1 .300/.301
                                 ]  grooves slug  .311
 bbl #3 .300/.301

Parker Hale  match bbl in .308 Winchester  .299/.300

As you can see, bore diameters on all these nominally .30 cal barrels are very close to .300., what varies are the groove diameters. The Ed Harris design is of 2 diameters, with the part in front of the crimp groove meant to be "bore riding" and the part behind the crimp large enough in diam . to fill the grooves . A lot has been written about the virtues of the driving bands of the cast bullet being perhaps .002 larger than groove dimension. The plausible argument to me is better sealing of the grooves prevents bore  leading because hot gasses do not melt bits of lead off the bullet which by-pass  the bullet and deposit on the barrel.

I believe I have proved this to myself by oversizing the driving bands only on bullets dropped out of Lee mould C312- 155-2R . I oversize the driving band area to about .319, then GC, size and lube to .316.

I see no leading , and  can show 7/8 C-C 5 shot groups at 50 yds.

Conditions :

Std issue Chinese SKS  ( converted from semi-auto to "Straight-Pull Repeater with a simple, removable "drop-in" kit which seals the gas block orifice).

Caldwell Lead Sled on rigid bench

2-7 power Burris hand gun scope in Scout position on forward mount of my design

5  grains of Red Dot behind the modified Lee bullet

Ave speed : 1042 fps

SD = 3.03

After all these words, I see no purpose in increasing the nose diameters  just because we want fatter driving band area. Maybe I just mis-read that post which I cannot seem to find to read again.


Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: SwedeNelson on April 23, 2015, 01:11:48 PM
Its a function of the tooling
Bands and nose are cut with one tool
cut the bands .002 over and the nose has to be the same

That or make a new tool at $300.00

Bullet maker, maker
Al Nelson
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: d@westlane on April 24, 2015, 09:14:24 AM
I believe I see the light now. I had assumed the final profile of the cavity was single -pointed with the mould halves clamped together. Now it looks like you have a cutter ground to profile and plunge each half separately , and of course that requires a new cutter for each custom mod ..  But if you need a new cutter for each incremental increase in the driving band area , why can't the nose diameters remain constant?
    Nothing for nothing, but why not fixture the halves clamped together in the lathe and single-point the contours with short solid carbide boring tools?

So, if  316 driving band area in my request  forces the nose dias to increase .004 over what drops out of 312 Ed Harris moulds I would have no way to predict how a bullet with such a drastic increase in nose dias would perform.

Please let me know if I even understand the tooling / generating situation correctly. If my bullet @ 316 requires a .004 larger nose, then I would have to try to bump knurl / size the nose portion of the bullets from the Lee mould to roughly approx what would drop from your 316 mould before ordering your 316 .
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: SwedeNelson on April 24, 2015, 10:39:25 AM
d@westlane

We have a undersized form tool cut to the profile of the bullet.
Clamp block together, pilot drill and interpolate out to the size we want.
This gives us control of the finished size and is a lot more production friendly
than single pointing it all. If your looking for a one off custom bullet we are not the one to do it. We can cut just about any size, but its the hole bullet that changes.
I hope this helps

Bullet maker, maker
Al Nelson
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: d@westlane on April 25, 2015, 08:03:16 AM
Now I see the dilema, and why the complete profile must grow with a drive band increase. I am out on my request for a 316 .  Instead I will mount the closed Lee mould on a 5C collet fixture and with  a inside grooving tool open up the two driving band details only to .317/.318.

However if you decide to offer the Loverin design for the Swede Mauser (Lyman # 266673) , please let me know.

Thanks for your help and patience with this newbe.
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: B Krafty on June 18, 2015, 10:02:49 AM
How about a Whisper 247 rerun?
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: Tailhunter on November 13, 2015, 08:44:10 PM
311/165 - whatever happened to that run?
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: dg31872 on November 30, 2015, 12:05:20 AM
I was signed up for a 225407 four cavity, but we changed our email address and I missed out on it. 
Now I see both of the moulds listed are out of stock.  When do you think you will run this mould?
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: Valleau on December 07, 2015, 11:54:51 AM
Looks like you are about out of .45 molds for ACPs.  Love to have either 452 230Gr. HP RG2 cavity     or 452 230Gr. HP RG4 cavity PB or GCs.
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: Tailhunter on February 02, 2016, 05:44:35 PM
311/165 did this ever run as planned in October?
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: 357Wheelgunner on February 03, 2016, 06:43:11 PM
I would like to call to your attention what I, and probably many of your customers see as a growing problem, you can not seem to keep up with inventory. For the second time in the last couple of years I've been looking at the website catalog for several months hoping that you would run some stock moulds for the 360, specifically of the 360-148 WC and the 360 -154  WFN. I also noticed that you were out of a lot your stock 360 offerings as well. Just a small reminder from my a fellow retailer and small manufacturer , if you don't have them you can't sell them! Seems to me, and take it for what you will, that you are running around making every odd ball mould, funnel, ingot mould, expanders, sizers, etc and missing out on orders that you already have tooling for. A lot quicker to run stock moulds then to create new tooling and new mould.  I have several of your moulds and like them and would get several more if I could get them. You are, and made your business as, a mould maker. Time to get back to what you do best, making great moulds at an affordable price!
Just my opinion, take it for what its worth.
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: 762sultan on February 04, 2016, 06:25:37 AM
I should start off by saying that I am only a forum member giving my own opinion and not a spokesman for NOE. I was a business owner for 25 years and my customers asked me why I didn't have every item on stock at all times. I had many thousands of dollars in inventory and it was quite difficult to maintain cash flow to pay the bills.

If you watch the on-line store Al runs "weekly specials" on a fairly regular schedule. This is done because of a back-up of inventory that is tying up cash that is needed to pay for daily operations. The whole idea is to make something and sell it and not to carry inventory just to sell an occasional mold and tie up money.

Al and his staff have only been in full time operation for several years and have came a long way.I believe they are experienced machine operators with a lot of ability. It takes a while to become experienced businessmen. It is a delicate balance to have enough inventory and not have too much. Basically they are having growing pains and it will have to work itself out. My fear is they will buy more equipment to try and satisfy everyone and get in over their head. I have seen other outfits try to get too big too quick. It must be remembered that NOE is a custom mold maker and not a mass producer like Lyman or Lee.

Your comments were accurate and not out of line or rude in any way and I'm sure Al didn't take offence in any way. Like I have always said NOE makes great moulds and it may take a while for them to become available but they are worth waiting for. This is not like fast food where you just walk in and have someone hand you a burger.

Just my 2 cents..not meant to be offensive. :)
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: SwedeNelson on February 04, 2016, 07:07:25 AM
357Wheelgunner

I cant do anything but agree with you.
We do have some problems - growth is not easy.
Our sales have more than doubled in the past 3 years.
We are working on the problem and hope that we can make some
big improvements the next year.

And thank you for your input.
Bullet maker, maker
Al Nelson
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: Onkel on February 04, 2016, 07:09:34 AM
My fear is they will buy more equipment to try and satisfy everyone and get in over their head. I have seen other outfits try to get too big too quick. It must be remembered that NOE is a custom mold maker and not a mass producer like Lyman or Lee.

I agree. It is too easy to overstretch. Take it easy, and stay in business. I think priorities have been about right this far.
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: 357Wheelgunner on February 04, 2016, 04:14:33 PM

Just my 2 cents..not meant to be offensive. :)

+1
 I had not intended to be rude, just perhaps venting a little frustration at not having "instant gratification".  I have started, built up, and sold several businesses over the last 50 some years so I am well acquainted with trying to draw the line between over expansion and not expanding quick enough to satisfy a huge market demand. I have also played the inventory vs just in time manufacturing  and it is tricky. Yes you do not want to Carry a huge inventory but you also need to satisfy customer demand in a timely fashion. Otherwise you open the door to competitors who will fill the demand. Personally I think All and his crew make a superlative, well designed and executed mould that  drops very consistent bullets. I bought my first mould way back when NOE was just starting up, a 357 158 gr Keith SWC, that have cast several thousand bullets with no issues, it is my go to bullet for everything from paper punching, hunting, and personal protection. I have also waited for well over 6 months for a little 37 gr. 22 caliber pill for my Hornet to be made on a group buy, great little bullet by the way. Waited so long that I almost missed the payment call because I forgot that I had ordered it! That is not a good lead time! Unfortunately  I am like a kid in a candy store though, I want MORE! Keep up the good work and sleep less! (Just kidding) ; <)
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: 357Wheelgunner on February 05, 2016, 02:34:18 PM
Woo Hoo! I just scored one of the molds on my wish list! Out of nowhere a few of the 360-148 gr HBWC showed up, and to make things even sweeter they are listed as specials! For anyone looking for a "perfect" self defense round these are as good as they get. Thanks!  :D
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: Orgoniun on March 03, 2016, 09:11:48 AM
Been waiting for the 311-175 1gc, 1pb {saeco 315 clone}  for a while now, Any idea when they will run ?

Thanks
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: dickieray on April 19, 2016, 06:49:31 PM
I'm waiting for a run of 360-154-WFN 4 or 5 cavity GC's


Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: kbstenberg on May 08, 2016, 06:10:22 AM
Al I will take one of the Saeco 315  2 cav. GC molds when they are made.  Kevin
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs 360-154-WFN GC 4 or 5 cav
Post by: dickieray on May 22, 2016, 08:22:20 PM
Please make a a run on these>>>>>>there are none in stock and none on the open market!!! Been looking and waiting months now. Please Al.......Pretty please???
Title: 454-255-SWC 454424
Post by: jethunter on June 03, 2016, 11:12:38 PM
Is there any inventory runs scheduled for 454-255-SWC 454424?
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: Dot6 on June 04, 2016, 08:59:44 PM
452-230-HP RG4 cavity PB Aluminum. Been after one for about a year, now, or close to it. I really like my NOE .41s and .44s, now desperately need a .45 to go with them.
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: Emmit on July 02, 2016, 01:44:31 PM
Would to see the 130 RN Quckenbush get started.l need one. Thanks.
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: corbinace on July 09, 2016, 01:15:45 AM
I too would like to see a run of the Saeco 315, if it works for you.
Title: 358 124Gr. TC 5 cavity PB
Post by: luke777 on August 08, 2016, 06:11:56 PM
358 124Gr. TC 5 cavity PB

I would love to be able to get a couple more of these moulds if possible. I was a part of the group buy a couple years back and they work very well.

Luke
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: Crislipm on January 20, 2017, 08:24:20 AM
311-247 hollow point...dear god, please make these again.
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: loudy13 on January 21, 2017, 12:16:04 PM
 Would love to see a 75-80 grain for my .243, the 105 grain is just a little heavy for the twist rate I have.

Thanks
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: r6487 on January 24, 2017, 08:47:56 PM
would like to see any heavy 358 especially 360318 245gr RN RG2 cavity GC, joined here only to find 0 in stock and have been looking & watching for a while. their scarcity matches the original lyman 358318
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: SwedeNelson on January 25, 2017, 06:16:09 PM
r6487

Have it in the line up
Hope to get to it soon!

Bullet maker, maker
Al Nelson
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: meadmkr on March 09, 2017, 01:55:47 PM
Any plans for a run of 460-315-RF RG2  (or RG4) in aluminum  ?
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: Orgoniun on June 15, 2017, 09:52:20 AM
Really want a 311365 2 cavity GC alum mold, Will they bee in stock soon ?
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: Ozarkspirit on July 14, 2017, 05:11:43 PM
Any plans for a run of 460-315-RF RG2  (or RG4) in aluminum  ?

This is one I'd love as well
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: Gundad77 on September 22, 2017, 06:27:58 PM
How about the 225-60-RN in brass, 5 cavity?
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: rdwarrior on January 06, 2018, 10:42:30 AM
There are a couple molds I would like to get - the first one is:
360-160-SWC RG2 cavity GC
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: Killing Time on July 18, 2019, 08:12:07 AM
Any thing scheduled for the 22 pellets in the future.
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: Surculus on September 19, 2019, 11:05:41 AM
250-34-RF-BR3 RG4 cavity HB Magnum Hunter Pellet

Need it to feed my Hatsan and the culls will be satisfactory for experimenting with for shotgun reloading as a ballistically superior alternative for #3 buck at distance...

 :)
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: Mike B. on November 22, 2019, 08:59:57 AM
I would like to see the 316-213-RN-O1 RG4 (316299) to be run so that it is available once again.
I have the non RG version, but would like to have the RG version also.
Title: Re: Scheduled Stock Runs
Post by: Mike B. on November 22, 2019, 08:53:25 PM
I would like to see the 454-273-WC RG4 cavity PB put on the stock run schedule so that it is available once again.
This HP cast bullet @ 256 Gr would be a good candidate for the 45 Colt.