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Casting and Reloading / TL310-225-RN-CE3 TACO Bullet for the 300 Blk
« on: November 27, 2018, 05:18:19 PM »
TL310-225-RN-CE3 TACO Bullet for the 300 Blk
The Taco bullet was designed by Full Lead Taco to be used as an "easy to cast, coat,
load, and shoot bullet for the 300 blk. The tumble lube version and the nose configuration
were proposed by GearNasher. The tumble Lube grooves do make it a little harder to cast
in comparison to the “Slick sided” version. But should be a small trade off if they help as
proposed – will see.



Used a 5 cavity mould, washed in hot soapy water and pre-heated it.
Pot temperature was 700F. Lightly smocked it with a propane lighter and ran it up to
frosty bullets, about 485F. Backed it down to just a mat grey finish, 390F to 420F and
cast with it. Did have to work with it a little to get the grooves to fill out.



Bullets dropped from mould at .3106”, base band did run .0003” to .0004” bigger on
my mould with our wheel weight alloy. Powder coated with (2) coats of Harbor Fright
Red (400F for 20min) .3128” and sized to .3102 with our bushing push through size
die .310. Did use some Hornady Unique Case Lube to lube them with. Works wonders!



Now to get back in to the reloading room and get them loaded.
Looking forward to doing a side by side with the HTC310-225-RN-CE4
Will post as we go.

Bullet maker, maker
Al Nelson

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Casting and Reloading / HTC359-129-TC-CD4 in the Ruger 9mm PC Carbine.
« on: November 26, 2018, 05:26:28 PM »
HTC359-129-TC-CD4 in the Ruger 9mm PC Carbine.
Made some time over the holiday and cast with the new HTC359-129-TC-CD4.



Used a 5 cavity mould, washed in hot soapy water and pre-heated it.
Pot temperature was 700F. Lightly smocked it with a propane lighter and
ran it up to frosty bullets, about 470F. Backed it down to just a mat grey finish,
390F to 420F and cast with it.



Like most all our HTC moulds, bullets feel from it with ease.
Bullets dropped from mould at .3596” with our wheel weight alloy.
Powder coated with (2) coats of Harbor Fright Red (400F for 20min) .3616”
and sized to .3583 with our bushing push through size die .358”.   
Was a little surprised that it would size down in one pass. Did use some
Hornady Unique Case Lube to lube them with. Works wonders!



Now to get back in to the reloading room and get them loaded.
Had the PC Carbine for 3 or 4 months and haven't had it out yet.
Will post as we go.

Bullet maker, maker
Al Nelson

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Air Guns / 300-68-FN-BI3 with a little work!
« on: April 29, 2018, 11:50:09 PM »
Got the FX Crown out with the hollow point version of the 300-68-FN-BI3
I think its going to be my go to bullet for this rifle.



Again had problems with the bullet being to long for the magazine.



Made up a run of Single Shot Trays for the 30Cal
http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product_info.php?products_id=5338&osCsid=unnaarbb0k7iiu415731fhm2d4



Works great for single loading.

Chronograph information was as follows.
First 5 shot string:
Shot (1) 692 fps 
Shot (2) 699 fps
Shot (3) 705 fps
Shot (4) 702 fps
Shot (5) 702 fps

Hi 705 fps
Lo 692 fps
Av 700 fps

ES 13
SD 5
Second 5 shot string
Shot (1) 704 fps
Shot (2) 711 fps
Shot (3) 709 fps
Shot (4) 708 fps
Shot (5) 712 fps

Hi 712 fps
Lo 692 fps
Av 708 fps

ES 8
SD 3

Didn't really shoot for groups - but shot about 6" lower than JSB's
And group size was about the same at 50 yards.
Shot a 15 round string - 6 rounds in about 3/4" or less with three flyers that opened it up to about 2 1/2"

Did shoot it in to some ballistics jell and it penetrated 8" and was retrieved.


Not explosive expansion - .359 - good weight retention though. Cast with pure lead. 

Working on getting more velocity out of the Crown - 1000fps and I think this bullet will be
a great performer.

Bullet maker, maker
Al Nelson




 

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Its not the "Cover of the Rolling Stones" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ux3-a9RE1Q



But I think its just as fun.
Our own 452-232-HP-AB1 http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/index.php?cPath=41_151&osCsid=uje5lv432nphndqjdilho7qls7
On the cover of HandLoader Magazine
Good article on Powder coating
Thanks John Haviland

Bullet maker, maker
Al Nelson


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What is new at NOE / PM's to NOE (AL)
« on: August 28, 2017, 01:14:12 PM »
Got a report that I'm not getting back to some of our great customers.
If by chance I don't get back to you in a timely manner give it another try or use the phone.
You may have to leave a message but I'll try to do better in the future - Sorry

Bullet maker, maker
Al Nelson

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What is new at NOE / RCBS Lyman Mould Guide
« on: August 27, 2017, 10:44:18 PM »
Just added a adjustable mould guide for RCBS and Lyman bottom pour lead pots.
A must have for RG's and a improvement over the Lyman bracket.
Take a look: http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/index.php?cPath=508&osCsid=im9jl5uor2qnkgg8nnglpgg7b0

Cornmastah
Thanks for all the work you did on it!
 
Bullet maker, maker
Al Nelson

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Group Buy Discussions / EAGAN MX4-30 ARD #2 w/ .299 - .301 Nose
« on: August 22, 2017, 02:27:58 PM »
Any interest.
Had numerous request for it.



Driving bands would be tapered per the original
As well as the nose.
Any and all input is welcome!

Bullet maker, maker
Al Nelson

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Air Guns / 250-35-RF (HB) Pellet
« on: June 01, 2017, 10:23:27 PM »
Got the first of our pellet series ran and on the web-store
250-35-RF (HB) Check it out here:
http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/index.php?cPath=374_376_483&osCsid=f3140v901ufb75seop1e4hsro3

Bullet maker, maker
Al Nelson

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NOE Bullet drawings / Whats all the information?
« on: March 24, 2017, 10:48:16 PM »
What is all the information for on our drawing?

What is "Sectional Density" and what is it used for?

•   Sectional Density is a value that relates the ratio of the density, or weight, to the cross-sectional area of a bullet.

•   Sectional Density is used in the calculation of a Ballistic Coefficient.
Ballistic Coefficient = Sectional Density divided by the bullet Form Factor.
The Weight of a bullet, in pounds, is divided by the diameter squared of the bullet.
Weight in grains = G
Weight in pounds = P (There are 7,000 grains in one pound)
Diameter in inches = D
Sectional Density = SD
P = G ÷ 7000
SD = P ÷ D ÷ D
A 250 gr. bullet of 0.454 diameter has a Sectional Density value of.
SD = ( 250 ÷ 7000 ) ÷ .454 ÷ .454 = 0.1732 

What is "Form Factor" and what is it used for?

•   The "Form Factor" or Coefficient of Form is a mathematically derived number that compares the profile of a bullet to the profile a "Standard Projectile".
 
•   The Form Factor is used to calculate the Ballistic Coefficient of a bullet with a specific nose profile.
Ballistic Coefficient = Sectional Density divided by the bullet Form Factor.
While the form factor of a bullet is best determined by experimental firing tests, a function exists that closely ESTIMATES the G1 Drag Table form factor for pointed jacketed bullets using the shape of the bullet nose that is presented toward the ballistic wind.
The nose shape of a tangential ogive bullet may be defined and given a value by determining the Ogive Radius of the nose curve.
The term Ogive Radius is used to describe the curved portion of the bullet nose.  It is the radius of the curve of the nose defined in caliber lengths.
Three measurements are required to define the curve radius length.
  1. The length of the curved portion of the nose = NL
  2. The diameter of the nose where the curved portion begins = D
  3. The diameter of the tip or me plate, whether rounded or flat, = T
  The length, L, in inches,  of the curve radius may be calculated by the following function.
  L = ( NL × NL ) ÷  ( D - T ) + ( D - T) ÷ 4
Using the value of the Ogive Radius in a function will return a jacketed, pointed bullet form factor value for the G1 Resistance Table as follows:
F =  G1 Form Factor.
R = Ogive radius in nose diameters.
R = L ÷ D  (Ogive Radius, in inches, divided by nose diameter, in inches)
The basic function to determine the form factor of tangential ogive, sharp pointed, jacketed bullets is:
F =  2 ÷ R × Square Root of [   ( 4 × R - 1 ) ÷  7  ] 
Using a highly modified version of this function, Form Factors and the resulting Ballistic Coefficients for cast bullets can be closely ESTIMATED.


What is the “Estimated B. C.”?

•   B.C. is the abbreviation of "Ballistic Coefficient"

•   Basically, B.C. is a measure of how streamlined a bullet is; that is, how well it cuts through the air.

•   Essentially B.C. is a measure of "air drag deceleration" of the bullet during it's trajectory.

•   Mathematically,  B.C. is the ratio of a bullet's "Sectional Density" to it's "Coefficient of Form".
What is "Estimated BC" used for?

•   The Ballistic Coefficient is used to calculate  bullet trajectory factors, such as time of flight, bullet drop and remaining velocity and energy at various distances along the trajectory path.
The ballistic coefficient is a number that relates the air-drag deceleration of an actual bullet to the air-drag deceleration of a standard bullet. Extensive testing was performed to determine and record these air-drag or retardation values throughout a useful velocity range. These retardation values are then listed in a Retardation Table , or Drag Table (usually in 10 feet per second intervals ).
The most commonly used table is referenced as the G1 table and was tabulated using the retardation values of a projectile weighing l pound, with a diameter of 1 inch and a nose curvature having a radius of 2 calibers ( or two inches ).
A smaller diameter bullet of lesser weight will posses lesser inertia than that of the standard bullet and will not pierce the air as easily as the standard bullet. The result of this condition is that a smaller bullet will posses larger retardation values spanning the useful velocity range than the standard bullet.
If the actual bullet produces retardation values that are double those which the standard bullet produces, then the actual bullet may be compared to the standard bullet with a coefficient number obtained by dividing the retardation rate of the standard bullet by the retardation rate of the actual bullet.
The result of this division is a G1 ballistic coefficient of 0.500 for the actual bullet. [Standard Bullet Retardation] / [Actual Bullet Retardation] = Ballistic Coefficient of the Standard bullet.
This ballistic coefficient is valid only for the G1 Retardation Table and would have no useful application with any other retardation table.
Calculating a ballistic coefficient from the physical description of a bullet requires two values, the Sectional Density of the bullet, which may be directly calculated, and a Form Factor value which may be estimated using the process described in the Form Factor topic.
After these values are determined, the Ballistic Coefficient is easily calculated.
Ballistic Coefficient = Sectional Density divided by the bullet Form Factor.
BC = Ballistic Coefficient
SD = Sectional Density
FF = Form Factor
BC = SD ÷ FF

Other standard bullet profiles have been tested and the drag deceleration values tabulated into drag  or retardation tables relating to each profile. 
G2 (Aberdeen J projectile), long nose, long boat tail bullets
G5 (short 7.5° boat-tail, 6.19 calibers long tangent ogive)
G6 (flat base, 6 calibers long secant ogive)
G7 (long 7.5° boat-tail, 10 calibers tangent ogive, preferred by some manufacturers for very-low-drag bullets[88])
G8 (flat base, 10 calibers long secant ogive)
GL (blunt lead nose) Essentially a modification of the G1 Table allowing for soft lead tip deformation at velocities above 1300 fps.


What is "C.G."  and what is it used for?

•   The "Center of Gravity", or Center of Mass, of a bullet is the point at which all the weight of the bullet seems to be concentrated. That is, there is as much mass, or  weight, behind the center of gravity as there is ahead of the center.

•   The relative positions along the bullet axis and distance between the Center of Gravity and Center of Pressure may be used, to evaluate the "Destabilizing Effect" of the Ballistic Wind upon bullet in flight..
The Center of Gravity may be physically determined by balancing a bullet on a knife edge.
The Center of Gravity and the Center of Pressure on a bullet such as a double ended wad-cutter would be at the same point, exactly at the center point of the axis of the bullet. However, if the bullet is composed of different profiles on the nose and base, then the CG and CP would be at different points along the axis of the bullet.




What is "C.P." and what is it used for?

•   The "Center of Pressure", or Profile Centroid, of a bullet is the point at which all the air pressure forces on the bullet seem to be concentrated. That is, there is as much air pressure force on the bullet behind the center of pressure as there are ahead of the center.

•   The relative positions along the bullet axis and distance between the Center of Pressure and Center of Gravity may be used, to evaluate the "Destabilizing Effect" of the Ballistic Wind upon bullet in flight.
The Center of Pressure of a bullet may be physically determined by balancing a a scaled up cardboard cutout of the Profile of the bullet on a knife edge.
The Center of Gravity and the Center of Pressure on a bullet such as a double ended wad-cutter would be at the same point, exactly at the center point of the axis of the bullet. However, if the bullet is composed of different profiles on the nose and base, then the C.G. and C.P. would be at different points along the axis of the bullet.



What is the "Destabilizing Effect"?

When a spin stabilized bullet travels along the trajectory path, the gyroscopic effect of the spin attempts to maintain a bullet in the initial nose-up position which was determined by the required sighting elevation.
This slight nose-up attitude presents the PROFILE of the bullet to the pressure of the Ballistic Wind of the trajectory. The base of an average bullet has a larger profile than the nose which applies more Ballistic Wind pressure to the bullet base and tends to lift the base of the bullet more into alignment with the path of the trajectory. However the downward angle of the trajectory is constantly being increased by gravity so the spin stabilized bullet never quite catches up and is always traveling in a slightly nose-up attitude in relation to the trajectory path.
Depending upon the design of the bullet, the Center of Pressure is usually closer to the nose of the bullet than the Center of Gravity.
A rotating bullet is seldom, if ever, perfectly balanced and therefore gyrates and precesses around the Center of Gravity of the bullet as it travels along the trajectory.
If the Center of Pressure is not at the same point as the Center of Gravity, the pressure of the Ballistic Wind acting upon the Center of Pressure will tend to increase the unbalanced condition of the bullet.
The distance from the Center of Pressure to the Center of Gravity may be considered as a lever to unbalance the bullet. The larger the distance between the two, the longer the lever, resulting in a larger destabilization force.
So, the generally accepted theory is that, the closer the Center of Pressure to the Center of Gravity, the more potential for a stable bullet.
 The "balance point" of a bullet would be the center of mass or center of gravity ( CG )
 The Center of Gravity may be calculated by finding the average of the distances from the bullet base of the Center of Gravity of each of the shanks, bands, grooves, bore rider, nose, etc. that make up the design of that particular bullet.
The Center of Gravity may be physically determined by balancing a bullet on a knife edge.
 The Center of Pressure may be calculated by the determining the balance point of the entire PROFILE of the bullet and can be defined as the average of the distances from the bullet base of the Area Center of each of the various section profiles of the bullet.
The Center of Pressure of a bullet may be physically determined by balancing a a scaled up cardboard cutout of the Bullet Profile of the bullet on a knife edge.
 A suggested procedure to move the center of pressure closer to the center of gravity on an existing design would be to produce that design in a hollow base version with the hollow base cavity volume calculated to move the Center of Gravity forward to coincide with the existing Center of Pressure.



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Archived Buys / HTC225-100-RF (14)
« on: January 18, 2017, 05:23:17 PM »
NOE HTC225-100-RF
 




Will offer this one .225 with and without lube groove.
And .226 with and without lube groove.

Group Buy discussion thread for this mold

We will be running 2 cavity, 2 cavity Brass, 3 cavity, 3 cavity Brass, 4 cavity, 5 cavity and 5 cavity Brass.
Plain Base only. Will assume mould blocks will be Aluminum if not requested as Brass.
 
Top punch, wrenches and sprue lube are extras now if you want them

Prices will be our standard website prices ( www.noebulletmoulds.com )
2 cavity $79.00
2 cavity Brass $101.00
3 cavity $86.00
3 cavity Brass $108.00
4 cavity $92.00
5 cavity $99.00
5 cavity Brass $121.00

Lyman/RCBS style Top Punch $5.00
Saeco style Top Punch $7.50
Mould Wrenches / Sprue Lube $2.50

Will run this as soon as we get10 signed up and we get the tooling in.
Will have them listed on our website as a inventory item as soon as we have them ran
So you can use Pay-Pal, Credit Card or Check / Money order
Post a "I want" and receive a 15% discount off the website
We will PM a discount code for you to use at check out

If you have question - Visit our website or PM me

Thanks
Swede Nelson

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Using a Bushing Push Through size Die
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6Qr9szz0K0

Bullet maker, maker
Al Nelson

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Forum Questions / Problems / Sneak peak of our new web-store / Forum!
« on: December 20, 2016, 06:37:30 PM »
You can see our new web-store and forum here!

http://162.214.14.26/~noe/

This is a work in progress
But please give us your thoughts!

Bullet maker, maker

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How to and Instructional Videos / Quick way to lube Brass
« on: November 16, 2016, 10:56:15 PM »
Thanks cornmastah
Video showing a quick way to lube Brass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUiu6w0yFXc&feature=youtu.be

Bullet maker, maker
Al Nelson

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Archived Buys / 452-228-SWC (452491) (12) GB306
« on: November 16, 2016, 12:04:32 AM »
NOE 452-228-SWC (452491) 
We will be running this like a inventory run







We will be running 2 cavity, 2 cavity Brass, 3 cavity, 4 cavity, 4 cavity Brass, 5 cavity, RG2 cavity, RG2 cavity Brass, RG4 cavity, RG4 cavity Brass. Plain base or gas check. Mixed GC or PB in 2 cavity or 4 cavity only, 1 each in 2 cavity and 2 each in 4 cavity.
Top punch, wrenches and sprue lube are extras now if you want them.

All moulds will be assumed to be Aluminum unless Brass is requested!

Prices will be our standard website prices ( www.noebulletmoulds.com )
2 cavity $79.00
2 cavity Brass $101.00
3 cavity $86.00
4 cavity $92.00
4 cavity Brass $114.00
5 cavity $99.00
RG2 cavity $103.00
RG2 cavity Brass $125.00
RG4 cavity $133.00
RG4 cavity Brass $155.00

Lyman/RCBS style Top Punch $5.00
Saeco style Top Punch $7.50
Mould Wrenches / Sprue Lube $2.50

Will run this as soon as we get 10 signed up Tooling is in house.
Will have them listed on our website as a inventory item as soon as we have them ran
So you can use Pay-Pal, Credit Card or Check / Money order
Post a "I want" and receive a 15% discount off the website
We will PM a discount code for you to use at check out

If you have question - Visit our website or PM me

Thanks
Swede Nelson

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Archived Buys / 413-215-WC (413432) (10) GB307
« on: November 15, 2016, 08:48:17 PM »
NOE 413-215-WC (413432) 
Sorry for the delays on this one – have had problems with the drawings
The top groove will be a crimp groove
We will be running this like a inventory run





We will be running 2 cavity, 2 cavity Brass, 3 cavity, 4 cavity, 4 cavity Brass, 5 cavity, RG2 cavity, RG2 cavity Brass, RG4 cavity, RG4 cavity Brass. Plain base only.
Top punch, wrenches and sprue lube are extras now if you want them.

All moulds will be assumed to be Aluminum unless Brass is requested!

Prices will be our standard website prices ( www.noebulletmoulds.com )
2 cavity $79.00
2 cavity Brass $101.00
3 cavity $86.00
4 cavity $92.00
4 cavity Brass $114.00
5 cavity $99.00
RG2 cavity $103.00
RG2 cavity Brass $125.00
RG4 cavity $133.00
RG4 cavity Brass $155.00

Lyman/RCBS style Top Punch $5.00
Saeco style Top Punch $7.50
Mould Wrenches / Sprue Lube $2.50

Will run this as soon as we get 5 signed up Tooling is in house.
Will have them listed on our website as a inventory item as soon as we have them ran
So you can use Pay-Pal, Credit Card or Check / Money order
Post a "I want" and receive a 15% discount off the website
We will PM a discount code for you to use at check out

If you have question - Visit our website or PM me

Thanks
Swede Nelson

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