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You are correct…
Personally I have also utilized the currently available NOE offering of the 160 Gr for the Carcano…
However I also have the 126 Gr in both the non RG & RG variations in my war bag.
The 140 Gr in both the .266 & the .268 varieties would certainly be potential candidates for those two cartridges.
It will all tend to depend on whether one uses traditional lube or PC plus the condition of the freebore just ahead of the chamber…
Take Care & Stay Safe…Joseph Arledge
The original military loadings for the Carcano were for the 156 Gr, & the 160 Gr bullet… That tends to mean that the original military Italian rifle barrel’s rifling will tend to have the proper twist rate for those heavier bullets…
The lighter cast bullets only really come into play if one has basically re-barreled an old shot out military barrel with a twist rate that tends to favor the lighter cast bullet offerings. The following intel is taken from the Shilen barrel makers website… as a basic reference guideline on that subject.
http://www.shilen.com/calibersAndTwists.html
6.5mm/.264
– 7″ * for bullets heavier than 130 gr.
– 8″ for bullets heavier than 130 gr.
– 8″ * Ratchet rifled 4 groove
– 9″ for bullets up to 130 gr.Does this tend to begin to answer your question?
Not knowing what powders you may currently have, prefer, have access to, & or favor down under … One will not tend to venture to offer a particular set of load data having also not seen, nor inspected & measured the condition of the bore in your particular Italian veteran …
The powder manufacturers will most probably have some better starting offerings for one to think about providing one has access to the powders offered by that manufacturer.
https://www.hodgdonreloading.com
I tend not to post in public load offerings from quickload any more for public liability reasons … & NOE PM’s unfortunately do not at the moment tend to allow for attachments…
If you want more intel PM me & we can talk quietly off line…
I do have my own copy of Quickload, & have augmented the original Quickload program offerings, by adding the additional NOE quickload offerings for that program with NOE cast bullet offerings as noted below.
This is in addition to utilizing basically the same precision cast bullet software design program that NOE utilizes… to make its up offering drawings… That intel can also be fed into quickload data base, & can then basically predict what a particular bullet and powder load will do … if one has done his or her part of the data input correctly…
Final proof of the verdict is how your particular Italian veteran preforms with your produced cast bullet product…
https://noebulletmolds.com/site/quickload-data/
Take Care, & Stay Safe…
The original military loadings for the Carcano were for the 156 Gr, & the 160 Gr bullet… That tends to mean that the original military Italian rifle barrel’s rifling will tend to have the proper twist rate for those heavier bullets…
The lighter cast bullets only really come into play if one has basically re-barreled an old shot out military barrel with a twist rate that tends to favor the lighter cast bullet offerings. The following intel is taken from the Shilen barrel makers website… as a basic reference guideline on that subject.
http://www.shilen.com/calibersAndTwists.html
6.5mm/.264
– 7″ * for bullets heavier than 130 gr.
– 8″ for bullets heavier than 130 gr.
– 8″ * Ratchet rifled 4 groove
– 9″ for bullets up to 130 gr.Does this tend to begin to answer your question?
Not knowing what powders you may currently have, prefer, have access to, & or favor down under … One will not tend to venture to offer a particular set of load data having also not seen, nor inspected & measured the condition of the bore in your particular Italian veteran …
The powder manufacturers will most probably have some better starting offerings for one to think about providing one has access to the powders offered by that manufacturer.
https://www.hodgdonreloading.com
I tend not to post in public load offerings from quickload any more for public liability reasons … & NOE PM’s unfortunately do not at the moment tend to allow for attachments…
If you want more intel PM me & we can talk quietly off line…
I do have my own copy of Quickload, & have augmented the original Quickload program offerings, by adding the additional NOE quickload offerings for that program with NOE cast bullet offerings as noted below.
This is in addition to utilizing basically the same precision cast bullet software design program that NOE utilizes… to make its up offering drawings… That intel can also be fed into quickload data base, & can then basically predict what a particular bullet and powder load will do … if one has done his or her part of the data input correctly…
Final proof of the verdict is how your particular Italian veteran preforms with your produced cast bullet product…
https://noebulletmolds.com/site/quickload-data/
Take Care, & Stay Safe…
I wanted to know your experience with the 160gr bullet! Im not after your load data.
I use quickload everyday so im very familiar with it, the free “Gordons Reloading Tool” is much better though, i use both to cross check the data.Fiddy27
I can tell you that all of the local members that I have supplied with cast product, to sample before buying their own moulds… have had absolutely no complaints with the 160 Gr cast bullet loads that they have chosen to feed their Italian veterans.
Technically this forum string set of postings should be under the 160 Gr cast bullets, & not under the various 140 gr cast bullets…
But then one would not get automatic replies from the forum moderator … would one …Though I do not specifically have a Carcano at the moment, I do have a couple of Swedes, and have also made up rounds for the 6.5 MM Arisaka… just to keep my hand in… Other local members have carcanos & thus the original interest as noted above …
In response to your question… I have had no complaints from that sector on 160 GR cast product …
If you had read the original forum string requests for the 6.5 MM 160 Gr cast bullets … that produced this last 160 Gr mould run …the remains of which is currently left in stock from that mould run … from which you say that you just ordered one…
You would (I tend to believe) have found the information that you were looking for… in regard to the 160 Gr cast bullet mould design.
They all have tended to shoot very well… in what we have utilized as 6.5 MM military firearms that were originally designed for said 160 Gr bullet weight.
All have shot well, and brought those military veterans out of their retirement.
Your original question was I believe…
Posted by: Fiddy27
« on: January 14, 2022, 03:52:21How does the 160gr go?
I have that on the way to me to Australia, i was the pick for the carcano!Answer… The 160 Gr cast bullet flies very well in what it was originally designed for…… Does this tend to answer your question?
I am glad that you have a copy of Quickload, and I will not comment on the other software package that you indicate that you tend to prefer… as on line comments as to which software package is better or not … tend to be a topic more for the off line discussions…
My reference to Quickload was that if you wanted some off line help on loads and how they will ballistically behave … I still tend to try to help off line, rather than on line…
Your call on what you prefer… to use as a reference & utilize… to produce loaded product… for transmission down range…
Personally if your carcano is in any kind of decent condition, then you should tend to be pleased with your just purchased NOE mould selection…
It is true that not enough interest in the various 140 Gr 6.5 MM have currently been generated to convince NOE proper … that it is worth doing a new inventory run on one or more of the 140 Gr designs…
Your Call on that …
If you really want, or prefer 140 Gr 6.5 MM cast bullets to try… One might suggest that you get your fellow shooters down under to become members, & sign in requesting one or more of the specific 140 Gr mould designs… NOE basically requires at least 5 separate individuals to request a specific mould design as noted in the link below requesting a new inventory run…
https://noebulletmolds.com/smf/index.php/topic,1624.0.html
The lighter bullet designs in 6.5 MM (for me at least) is more in line with the other various 6.5 MM cartridge offerings that tend to have barrel twists more in keeping with the lighter cast bullet cartridge designs … However to each his or her own… preferences…
If you can get the lighter cast bullets like the 140’s to shoot as well for you … as the 160’s … to your expectations … in your Italian veteran … Down Under … Please … Go for it…
The first step is to get sufficient requests posted on the proper forum string … in a short time frame from different members for a specific mould design… Indicating a firm commitment to buy if the mould run is actually subsequently produced…
Take Care & Stay Safe…
Thanks for the info!
I tell everyone where i get my molds from and that NOE molds are top notch.
I have several 6.5mm to load for, Carcano, 6.5 jap and 6.5×55 swede in both modern and ex mil which the 163gr may or may not suit, hence registering interest for this 140gr mold.
We are having a bit of a powder shortage down here so hopefully I can come up with a good load with what’s available!
If you can powder coat, & or intend to keep your loads below 1600 fps you do not need to use a GC…
A .268 powder coated will most probably end up with a diameter of around .270 once the powder coating is added.
Your call on how you want to proceed… I already have you on my unofficial list as requesting any PB + a Lyman TP from 1-11-2022.1. Fiddy27 268-140-FN GC 4 Cav Br or 5 Cav Al 01-05-22
2. joearledge 268-140 FN Any PB Lym TP 01-11-22Huzzah…
For those that might still be interested in there is now stock in the 268-140-FN in both GC & PB in 2, 4, & 5 cavity versions versions… sans Brass.
https://noebulletmolds.com/site/product-category/bullet-moulds/264-6-5mm/268-140-fn-bm3/
Guess it must almost be the 4th of July…
Take Care, & Stay Safe…
Mike B.
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