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      For some time now I have been contemplating what my winter project should be, now that the Motel is slowing down, and the snow is fast approaching…. This is the time of year when I get to play in the shop, and bring to life things I have been thinking about all summer…. This year’s project is very ambitious, a scratch built rifle using only a few purchased parts…. the barrel, trigger group, scope, the fasteners, and a few small items like the gauge, picatinny rail and mounts, etc…. Here is a sketch of the general arrangement…. 

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      This gun is a monster…. It’s 48″ long, with a 33″ barrel, and will weigh an estimiated 12 lbs. plus scope…. It’s heart will be a 7″ twist, .257 cal TJ’s barrel from a new mandrel I am having made…. The fast twist is necessary to tame the new 113 gr. Bob’s Boattail bullet I designed, which is basically a scaled down version of the 200 gr., .308 cal “Whiteout” BBT that won the 200 yd. EBR in October…. This is its intended fodder…. Molds will hopefully soon be available from NOE….

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      In order to push that bullet into the mid 900s, I will be using 3800 psi, normally supplied by tethering to a regulator on a 4500 psi Great White tank…. However, the reservoir, which is made from 1.25″ OD x 0.095″ wall CrMoly, will be 400 cc, so I should be able to get a few shots off tether within a 1-2% ES…. The main tube runs the full length of the rifle, and houses the valve, hammer, hammer spring and preload adjustment…. and provides a mount for the PRod trigger group and a home-made adjustable stock, to be machined mostly from aluminum, and a short Picatinny rail up front to mount a BiPod…. The hammer has it’s own cocking knob, and it’s free-floating, ie when the gun is uncocked it rattles around in the ~0.1″ space between the valve stem and the captive spring guide…. The 1/4″ diameter steel spring guide slides through an adjusting screw mounted in a block bolted into the tube…. It carries the long hammer spring, preloaded to between 5-10 lbs. of force when uncocked, which maximizes the hammer velocity without requiring more than 20 lbs. of force when cocked…. I have used this arrangement before, and I really like it…. It makes for a lighter and more constant cocking effort, and not having the hammer spring in constant contact with the hammer, and yet lots of preload, reduces or eliminates hammer bounce…. The preload adjustment is made through the end of the main tube with a long socket wrench….

      The exciting part of this design, to me, is what has been deemed the “Monotube” upper structure…. This is a 1.25″ OD x 0.065″ CrMoly tube that runs nearly full length…. The breech block, which will be machined from 2024-T3 round bar for a sliding fit inside the tube, extends from about 4″ ahead of the loading port to the back of the tube…. In that one piece, it mounts the barrel, serves as the chamber, transfer and loading port, and bolt carrier…. It will be solidly bolted inside the tube, and the barrel threaded into it securely…. On top of the tube will be a Picatinny rail for the scope, bolted to the tube and breech block, ahead of the loading port…. At the front of the tube is a short aluminum plug, which is a close fit on the barrel, also bolted into the tube, 1″ from the front…. The muzzle of the barrel (recessed just inside the tube) will be threaded 1/2″-20 NF, and a stack of Belleville disc springs will slide over it, and be tensioned by a simple 1/2″ nut, tightened by a socket wrench…. By using a stack of five, 0.073″ thick Bellevilles in a series arrangement, I can achieve an adjustable tension of up to 1300 lbs. on the barrel in two turns of the nut, with a corresponding amount of compression in the outer tube…. Once the tension is applied, the barrel, tube, breech block and scope mount will work as one solid piece…. The object is the maximum possible rigidity, approaching that of a solid 1.25″ diameter barrel with the breech machined into it, but at a fraction of the weight…. Not a lightweight, for sure, but light for how solid it is…. There is a simple, double-concave aluminum spacer at the back, between the two tubes, holding them 1/4″ apart (so the barrel tube is free floating), with through bolts securing the breech block in the upper tube to the valve and hammer spring carrier in the lower tube…. holding the two tubes parallel….

      The most expensive part of the whole thing is the Millet 6-25 x 56 SF Scope (obtained from Eric at http://www.scopesandammo.com) which my wife will be giving me for Christmas…. It is massive, 22″ long with sunshade, and weighs 2.2 lbs., built around a 35mm tube…. The MilDot-with-bar Reticle is calibrated for the maximum magnification (25X) which means the dots are far enough apart to allow sighting at 100 yards and have the top of the lower post be the point of aim at 200 yards…. The distance from the dot-to-bar becomes 1 Mil at 12.5X, and that point is marked on the zoom ring, so at that setting you have a MilDot reticle, but with 10 dots available in every direction…. The Elevation turret has 140 MOA of travel because of the huge 35mm tube, which should allow enough to reach out about 1/4 mile…. I will be machining a 20 MOA slope in the Picatinny rail so that the trajectory intersects the line of sight at 100 yards with the scope centered…. Hold under, using the MilDots, will be used at ranges under 100 yards…. Funny thing is that the scope doesn’t look at all out of place on such a long rifle….

      I’ve ordered the barrel mandrel, and the CrMOly tubing and 2024-T3 bar stock…. and Mrs. Claus ordered the scope…. so this project is off and running…. and I can’t wait to start making chips….

      Bob

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        Gee, guess what!?!…. I found a beautiful Millet 6-25 X 56 SF scope under the tree this morning!…. Things were quiet around here this afternoon, so I decided to cut the tubes to length and assemble the Monocoque PCP for the first time…. Here is what it looks like….

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        I still have to add the bolt, fill fittings and barrel stretcher, and it already weighs just over 13 lbs…. without the scope!…. It is 49.25″ long, although it looks longer…. It does balance nicely, in the back half of the forestock….  Then I removed the buttplate, and installed the BiPod (actually a TriPod, I guess) and the scope…. I think it looks pretty awesome….

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        This is pretty much a bench gun, although it could certainly be used prone for varminting, using the BiPod and with or without the buttstock…. I really like the easy adjustability of the BiPod for height and tilt, using the handwheels…. It was a pretty cool Christmas present to put it together and look at it for the first time….

        Bob

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          Today I drilled the holes in the front of the tubes for the retaining screws for the Fill Fitting and Barrel Tensioner….

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          Here is a photo of the muzzle, showing the recess for the Belleville washers and nut that will tension the barrel….

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          That completes the machining on the Reservoir tube…. All that remains on the Monocoque tube is the slot for the bolt handle….

          Bob

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            Yesterday and today I machined the J-slot for the bolt handle in both the Monocoque tube and the Breechblock…. I also installed a Velocity Adjuster that works by choking the barrel port by preventing the bolt handle from withdrawing fully into the lower part of the J-slot…. I consists of a 3/16″ rod running in a milled slot, and a 10-32 screw to control the position of it…. In addition, there is a small set-screw which presses a plastic plug against the side of the adjusting screw to act as a brake to prevent it from moving by itself…. Here is the Breechblock, showing the J-slot, bolt handle, and adjuster…. In this photo, it is closed about 30% from wide open….

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            I’m very pleased with the positioning of the bolt handle and cocking handle…. I was a bit concerned that your hand might hit the bolt handle when cocking the gun, but I can wrap my big mitt around it no problem and my knuckle doesn’t (quite) touch the bolt handle during cocking…. Here is a photo of the gun in the cocked position….

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            You can see that the bolt handle is fully back in the J-slot in that photo, which means that the nose of the bolt is completely clear of the barrel port…. Here is a photo of the gun unloaded, with the cocking handle forward (uncocked) and the breech open for loading…. There is lots of clearance between it and the scope….

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            I also made a brake for the hammer spring preload position adjuster today, to prevent that from adjusting itself as well…. This completes the major part of the machining on this project…. I can assemble everything now, except I am still waiting for the bolts to secure the Valve and Fill Fitting, so I can’t as yet pressure test it…. I measured the reservoir today, and it is a whisker over 400 cc, not including the volume inside the valve, so I should have about 25 CI of air available…. If I can manage to tune for a shot string from 3800 psi down to 3000 (55 bar), that works out to 1375 CI, which would work out to about 7 shots at 200 FPE, if I can get the gun to produce 1 FPE/CI at that power level (which is likely a stretch)…. I am more likely to tune it for tethered use at 3800 psi, and to get 3 shots within a very narrow ES off tether…. What the FPE level ends up when tuned like that…. is now the big question….

            Bob

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              The tooling is in progress for the 101 gr. and 112 gr.Bob’s Boattails…. These are the bullets I need for the new Monocoque PCP, and the tooling is being made, so the moulds will be available soon for anyone who wants one…. Al is running a group buy for them, so you can place your intention to purchase at the following links….NOE’s regular prices apply, with a 15% discount if there are 10 orders, and are posted there…. 2-5 cavity moulds are available, in aluminum or brass….

              http://noebulletmolds.com/smf/index.php/topic,1318.0.html for the 101 gr.

              http://noebulletmolds.com/smf/index.php/topic,1317.0.html for the 112 gr.

              The new 7″ twist barrel from TJ’s was commissioned for these bullets, and is now available from Mike at his regular price of $4.75 per inch…. I would like to thank Al Nelson of NOE, Rizen 1 of the GTA, and Hobbyman2007, Rrdstar, Skanzy, Castle02 and Frank of the CAF for their generous donations towards the cost of the tooling…. Having that paid for without the need for 10 orders will allow all of us who want a mould to purchase at NOE’s list price if the 10 spots are not reserved….

              Bob

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                Finally got my valve screws, so I got to assemble the reservoir today and pressure test it…. Filled it 1K at a time, checking for leaks (none) and it’s currently sitting at 3500 psi…. I’m topping off my Great White tank with the ShoeBox to complete the fill….

                I slid the hammer down the tube, with it angled about 20*, and was rewarded with a nice loud POP and the valve sealed up again 100%, so things are looking good so far….

                Bob

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                  It’s now sitting at 4500 psi, no leaks I can find, so I’ll leave it for a week and see what happens….

                  Bob

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                    update?  ;)

                    Thurmond

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                      No update, waiting for moulds so that I can make the bullets and cut the chamber to fit them….

                      Bob

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                        Any progress Bob. I see you have bullets now! Anxiously waiting for an update!  ;D

                        Thurmond

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                          Waiting for my chamber reamer to get here, and then the time to cut it…. soon, I hope….

                          Bob

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                            I got my HollowPoint conversions back from Erik today, and they look AMAZING…. He is such a skilled craftsman it makes up for the $100 per mould HP conversion cost, just in looking at the finished product….

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                            The converted 101 gr. is on the left, and the HP version of the 112 gr. is on the right…. He used (as requested) a 1/8″ HP pin, which pushed the Meplat back to just under 50%, shortening the bullets slightly…. The “Inset Bar” conversions hold the heat in the HP pins nicely, so once up to temperature I am sure they will cast just great…. I’m really looking forward to trying them out….

                            Bob

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                              really good piece of gun Bob  congratulation

                              can you build gun only for you or can i buy to you one?

                              can we talk in private?

                              thank you

                              I wish you a good end of day to all

                              Thierry

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                                Sorry, I don’t make guns or parts for anyone…. I don’t have enough time to complete my own projects….

                                Happy New Years !!!

                                Bob

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                                  Any news on the reamer Bob ? Looking forward to hearing more about this project !

                                  Dave

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                                    Next project on the list, Dave….  ::)

                                    Bob

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