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Mike B.
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wcn2018
SoftwareJanitor,
If you don’t mind me asking, where did you get dies? Did you get them after the rifle? I have been looking for months now and the only place I see them is ebay, and I don’t want to pay the scalpers. I actually managed to find loaded ammo first
I got the dies after, off eBay. I paid a bit over list price, but they are sold out everywhere else.
I haven’t managed to find even a single box of loaded ammo anywhere.
Try the attached link for Ammo for the Italian loaded ammunition.
https://www.cheapammo.com/rifle/6-5×52-carcano-ammo
Sorry I could not help on the die situation…
Try the attached link for Ammo for the Italian loaded ammunition.
https://www.cheapammo.com/rifle/6-5×52-carcano-ammo
Sorry I could not help on the die situation…
Thanks for that. I still need the bullet mold because “cheap” that ammo is not. And the shipping was about 1/2 what the ammo cost, so it was pretty pricey, but at least I will be able to reload the brass.
I searched a long time for dies before I finally gave up and bought a set of Lee Pacesetters off eBay. Not only were they expensive, the seller shorted me the shell holder that was supposed to be included for free. I’ve got a few #2 shell holders though, so not the end of the world.
Not a problem…
It is at least brass cartridge cases that are boxer primed…Yes, I’ve used Privi Partisan ammo before, it is fairly good. Even if it was Berdan primed, I have a Berdan de-prime tool and some Berdan primers. I shoot a few oddball cartridges where I have a lot of Berdan primed cases. They are a pain to de-prime and the primers are hard to find and fairly expensive, but I hate wasting reloadable brass.
Did you happen to notice that the source that you bought the cartridge cases from only had the much lighter 126 Gr bullets… still in stock, even though it was miss listed on the the bullet weight as the circa 140 grain bullet… not what the illustration showed and what was listed in the cartridge description as the bullet weight & type…
Most probably you will be better off pulling those lighter 126 GR bullets and then once you get your needed mould proceed from there… as they will most probably tend to do poorly in the accuracy department…
Your call on that… if all you need to hear is a bang from your as yet unfired new acquisition…
You may also want to get a slightly larger expander die to go with that die set that you purchased on the internet… (~.001 or so for the cast bullets that you plan to cast and size in the future.)
I also have played with berdan primed brass… it tends to be a pain in the lower 40… to convert or reload… especially when one could get boxer primed brass in the past, & hopefully in the future.
Personally if you are going to go to all that trouble to reload berdan brass with new berdan primers…
There are documented cartridge conversion procedures that in this instance for this cartridge that happen to use as a basis the 30-06 cartridge case, so that you can if you want start with a boxer cartridge case as a basis… you can without compromising the cartridge case design structure, & or risk even slightly damaging the internal anvil in that berdan primed cartridge case…
If you want that cartridge case conversion intel… then PM me with your actual email address, & I will send you the scanned pages describing the steps that you need… (NOE PM’s unfortunately do not allow for attachments), & I tend to feel that it is wrong to publicly post that intel here from a potential liability and legality standpoint.
No disrespect on reloading berdan primed brass… What ever floats your boat… Just remember that you most probably will also be dealing with the corrosive berdan primers, on much of the older surplus berdan primed ammunition, & are most probably also looking at corrosive primed brass that once they are fired just once with a corrosive primer tend to add a new dimension of cleaning and cartridge detonation to the brass that now has that corrosive primer residue baked in.
Especially it the brass has been lying in state for any length of time… There is also the liability concern on cartridge cases so modified… from berdan to boxer to deal with…
Again what ever floats you boat and gets you to where you want to be…
Take Care & Stay Safe…It says 123gr in one place and 139gr in others. Hard to say what I will get, but there is nothing else available anywhere at any price that I’ve been able to find.
I realize that 123gr is not ideal, but I’m not going to be using this rifle for hunting or matches, so being able to get a bang out of a so far unutilized rifle is better than nothing.
I shoot a lot of corrosive milsurp ammo with both Berdan and Boxer primers, so I am familiar with the cleaning process needed. The Berdan primers I have are recent production and non-corrosive. Mostly Norma, Wolf and Tulammo.
I have Boxer brass for 6.5×52 Carcano that was converted from .257 Roberts that I bought from Buffalo Arms. I don’t have any Berdan brass for this cartridge, the Berdan brass I have is mostly for 7.62x54R, 8×57 Mauser and 7.62×39 or some fairly obscure obsolete other ones. I’ve seen methods for converting brass from Berdan to Boxer, and it seems like as much or more trouble than just dealing with Berdan primers, which I already have. I understand the issues with corrosive salts inside the brass, but I’ve honestly never had a big problem with it. A lot of the milsurp ammo I have is 50+ years old, but I tend to reload it fairly quickly once it has been shot, and I’m guessing that once reloaded and the case is mostly filled with powder and sealed with a bullet, that corrosion isn’t that big of a problem. I also tumble my brass after firing so maybe that helps too, although I am not sure how much media actually gets down inside bottleneck cases.
I might recommend that you consider a liquid wash of the cartridge cases with lemishine, and then liquid tumble the brass with steel pins… That will help clean out the Powder & Primer residue from inside the cartridge case, & clean up the brass inside and out…
Dry media just tends to pack itself into the case and once the case is full inside really does not clean the inside of the cartridge case… as there is no more room in the case for the media to move around and scrub the inside of the cartridge case as it will do to the outside of the cartridge case in a vibration or rotary tumbler.
I might also recommend that you deprime the cases first be they boxer or berdan primed…
Done properly the brass inside & out will look like it has never been fired when looking down into the cartridge case.
I then tend to take an extra step & anneal all the cartridge case necks & shoulders with an annealer to counteract the work hardening & age brittleness of the older brass, & to help ease the process of resizing, or reforming the extra cartridge cases to what might be needed… down the line…
For each of us the preferred process is basically is what basically that each of us have found that appears to work, & best floats your boat… and tends to give you that warm fuzzy feeling…
Take Care & Stay Safe…It says 123gr in one place and 139gr in others. Hard to say what I will get, but there is nothing else available anywhere at any price that I’ve been able to find.
I realize that 123gr is not ideal, but I’m not going to be using this rifle for hunting or matches, so being able to get a bang out of a so far unutilized rifle is better than nothing.
I shoot a lot of corrosive milsurp ammo with both Berdan and Boxer primers, so I am familiar with the cleaning process needed. The Berdan primers I have are recent production and non-corrosive. Mostly Norma, Wolf and Tulammo.
I have Boxer brass for 6.5×52 Carcano that was converted from .257 Roberts that I bought from Buffalo Arms. I don’t have any Berdan brass for this cartridge, the Berdan brass I have is mostly for 7.62x54R, 8×57 Mauser and 7.62×39 or some fairly obscure obsolete other ones. I’ve seen methods for converting brass from Berdan to Boxer, and it seems like as much or more trouble than just dealing with Berdan primers, which I already have. I understand the issues with corrosive salts inside the brass, but I’ve honestly never had a big problem with it. A lot of the milsurp ammo I have is 50+ years old, but I tend to reload it fairly quickly once it has been shot, and I’m guessing that once reloaded and the case is mostly filled with powder and sealed with a bullet, that corrosion isn’t that big of a problem. I also tumble my brass after firing so maybe that helps too, although I am not sure how much media actually gets down inside bottleneck cases.
The ammo arrived today. 123gr. Probably won’t have great accuracy, but it is properly headstamped brass for 6.5×52 Carcano. And at least it is something to make sure my Carcano operates correctly. Once I get my bullet mold I can load it up with some better weight and profile bullets.
Mike B.
wcn2018
Matthew Fleet
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