.45-70 wimp loads

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    Rick R
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      I am going to admit it.  I’m getting old.  I’ve been thinking about a lighter recoiling rifle than my TC Katahdin or Marlin GG.  But then my brain said “get a lighter bullet”.

      I know that there is a Collar Button Bullet where the design dates back 150 years.  It looks interesting but I read that it can be difficult to cast and size.  Would a more up to date design be better?  Something like the 460-315-RF 2 cavity PB shortened by a groove with maybe a shorter nose?  Lets say that we aim for @250gr.

      Push it to 900-1,200fps and shoot more with less trips to the dentist.

      http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product_info.php?cPath=42_146&products_id=2146&osCsid=iqi0aa55gnhqfmjcbu3ivuugr6

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      Full.Lead.Taco
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        The NOE collar button bullet is a modified collar button bullet with a smaller grease groove which makes it a bit stronger and less flimsy.  Although, if there is a specific lighter weight bullet design you would be interested, we can always draw something up.  So you are wanting a 250ish gr bullet?

        I am going to admit it.  I’m getting old.  I’ve been thinking about a lighter recoiling rifle than my TC Katahdin or Marlin GG.  But then my brain said “get a lighter bullet”.

        I know that there is a Collar Button Bullet where the design dates back 150 years.  It looks interesting but I read that it can be difficult to cast and size.  Would a more up to date design be better?  Something like the 460-315-RF 2 cavity PB shortened by a groove with maybe a shorter nose?  Lets say that we aim for @250gr.

        Push it to 900-1,200fps and shoot more with less trips to the dentist.

        http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product_info.php?cPath=42_146&products_id=2146&osCsid=iqi0aa55gnhqfmjcbu3ivuugr6

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        Rick R
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          I guess I’m curious if the Collar Button design can be bettered.  Something in the 200-250gr range with more nose sticking past the cg.  Plain base with grooved shank that would work with standard or tumble lube.

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            I recently stumbled on to an 457201 Rapine mould . It is likely that it was for a 1st Gen SAA with the 456,7,8 throats . Bought it sight unseen from a known reputable seller . I can try to get some pictures when it arrives maybe cast a few .

            There are lots of 452-454 bullets that could be run in a special run at 458-460 for solid known good designs from 200-275 gr that should feed well in repeaters . Singles it’s just a matter of keeping them in the case . Gas check a few and that TC would probably run the heels off a 460 ……
            Just ideas though .

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              opening up a 454 design to 459 or 460 would be doable.  Got a specific?

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              Rick R
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                Would something like this function in a lever gun and hold enough lube for a rifle barrel?

                http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product_info.php?cPath=41_154&products_id=1026&osCsid=tkqtmk7sm30bt5o0arvs17m245

                My hunting load is a hard cast gaschecked 360gr RD @ 1,950fps. Great groups and deflates deer on impact. But I’m looking for something lighter moving slower.

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                  I find the collar button over 10gr of Green Dot to be very accurate

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