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    SwedeNelson
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      NOE 453 210Gr. RF (BD)
      This is a BD designed bullet

      CLOSED
      Will get it on the mill next

      We will be running this like a inventory run

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      NOE_Bullet_Moulds_453_210Gr_RF_235_gr_Sketch.jpg

      NOE_Bullet_Moulds_453_210Gr_RF_PB_240_gr_Sketch.jpg

      NOE_Bullet_Moulds_453_210Gr_RF_HP_214_gr_Sketch.jpg

      We will be running 2 cavity, 4 cavity, 5 cavity, RG2 and RG4 (both HP and FN pins) Aluminum.
      And RG2 cavity Brass, GC or PB. We will offer mixed GC and PB in 2 cavity, 4 cavity RG2 and RG4
      moulds only (no mixed GC, PB in 5 cavity blocks).

      We offer Blank RG pins on our website for you that like to make your own.
      Top punch, wrenches and sprue lube are extras now if you want them

      Prices will be our standard website prices ( http://www.noebulletmoulds.com )
      2 cavity $79.00
      4 cavity $92.00
      5 cavity $99.00
      RG2 cavity $103.00
      RG4 cavity $133.00
      RG2 cavity BRASS $125.00

      Lyman/RCBS style Top Punch $5.00
      Saeco style Top Punch $7.50
      Mould Wrenches / Sprue Lube $2.50
      RG2 blank pin set $4.50
      RG4 blank pin set $9.00

      Will run this as soon as we get 10 signed up. We have tooling on hand so we ca run this one fast.
      Will have them listed on our website as a inventory item as soon as we have them ran
      So you can use Pay-Pal, Credit Card or Check / Money order
      Post a “I want” and receive a 15% discount off the website
      We will PM a discount code for you to use at check out

      If you have question – Visit our website or PM me

      Thanks
      Swede Nelson

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      johntibbs
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        Thanks for the link Beagle333.  It appears that BD is not initials necessarily rather it is his handle on the castboolits website.  The history and rationale behind the design was what I was getting at with my question.

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        adamsutherland
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          List updated, Al notified.

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          SwedeNelson
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            LAST CALL
            10 on the list
            Will close this one Friday

            Bullet maker, maker
            Al Nelson

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            johntibbs
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              *First off, I would like an RG4 aluminum PB with a Lyman top punch.  Thanks!*

              OK, well a little late with info about this design, but I did find it:
              http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?54127-Bd45

              In this thread the designer, BD, posts his rationale behind this design and addresses feeding in 1911’s.

              Here is some more of his observations:
              http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?136134-Stopping-power-amp-Meplat

              There is a little more information here:
              http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?167554-Bd-45

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                Here is the text of two posts (combined) by BD dated 5/21/2009 on the Castboolits website.  I hope this is ok, because this info is relevant to his design and should be archived with it imho.

                “There’s a couple of things possibly going on here. The BDacp is a full diameter bullet with a “sharp”.320 meplat. This can lead to feeding issues in a couple of situations.

                First: THERE ARE NO POWER TOOLS INVOLVED IN ANYTHING WE
                ARE DISCUSSING HERE INVOLVING A 1911. You and your gun will be safer if you put the pistol on the shelf and the dremel in the safe. The amount of metal removal involved is at most a tenth or two of one grain, maybe .5 grain for throating.

                One is a feed ramp with annular machining rings evident. because the meplat is “sharp”, it can drag on these rings slowing the slide so that it doesn’t make it fully into battery. in an extreme case a nose down round from the bottom of the mag may hang right up. Evidence of this can be a bump or flat spot on the edge of the meplat. The cure is to polish the feed ramp. There is a ton of info out there on “polishing” feed ramps. I’m NOT going into it here as the best method is pre-determined by the starting dimensions of the pistol in question. If it needs more than 10 seconds with a bit of 600 grit wet/dry paper on your pinky, You will need to think it through.

                Another is that the full diameter boolit can contact the lands in a barrel with no throat. I’ve looked down a bunch of 1911 barrels and I’ve seen throats form non-existent to 1/2″, even among guns from the same manufacturer. Evidence of this is a slide that stops very close to being in battery, and can be tapped in. Also, “land” marks on the boolit of an unfired, ejected round. The cure is to throat the gun. Ideally, just to the point that cartridge will headspace on the boolit making for excellent accuracy. Throating a 1911 takes 5 minutes with a hand turned reamer. I have one that I’ve lent to a number of folks, unfortunately it is currently in Maine, with my 1911s, and I am in the PRNY.

                The third common problem is the slide locking back prematurely. This is caused by the ogive of the boolit hitting the “button” on the inside the frame back of the slide stop as it comes up from the mag. I suppose you could call the slide stop a “lever”? This is typically cured by stoning down the back of the slidestop a bit to smooth it up. That button is commonly cast from a part made by several passes of a tool. The process can leave a little pyramid or “tit’ in the center of the back of the button. The trick is to stone that smooth without reducing the lip that catches the slide follower when the mag is empty. I also run a small drill bit through the slide stop pin tube, and twist it in my fingers, to put a slight detent on the rear face of the stop for the pin to seat in in order to lesson the chances of this happening, (or me bumping the stop up by accident. I think brownells sells a baby ball end tool specifically for this.

                When I designed this boolit I was interested in maximizing the meplat and I went with the dimension that worked in all three of the 1911s I had on hand at the time. In my mind it was better to exclude, or fix, those guns outside of the parameters, rather than reducing the meplat to the point that it would work well in every example of 1911 out there. I never intended to mass produce these for a profit.

                Although I designed the BDacp and really like it, I use the H&G #68 design for IDPA. Primarily because the 200 grainer just above major makes a lighter recoiling, quicker back on target, type load for practice and games. It makes a cleaner, easy to score, hole in the cardboard and it uses less lead to make, while using about the same amount of powder to make MPF.

                I load the BDacps hotter for killing things, and the nose design helps me keep the two types of ammo seperate. I do take some with me for those occasional stages that involve knocking over a bunch of steel, or shooting through things.

                For those who didn’t ask, when carrying concealed in town, I’m carrying Ranger RTs. The BDacp makes an excellant practice round for these, but concerning CC it’s the penetration thing IMHO.

                Boy, this makes me want to move back to a free state.”

                BD

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                johntibbs
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                  Here is a post from BD dated 12/12/2011 that discusses his design, which originally wasn’t offered in a hollowpoint:

                  “I designed the BD acp after experiencing what I felt was less than stellar terminal ballistic results using both the H&G #68 and the Lee 230 TC designs. I was looking for a self defense boolit that was effective at stopping critters that bite. The other designs killed critters OK, but lacked the “smack” to STOP them.

                  My thoughts in the design were to obtain the largest sharp edged meplat that would feed reliably in a 1911, provide a solid straight shank section for the taper crimp at the optimum COAL, use a .10 length drive band, (IMHO the most effective length to pump lube at this pressure), while maintaining the maximum possible case volume behind the boolit. These features allow me to drive a 230 grain .328 meplat at 900 fps at reasonable pressures with unlimited case life and no need to clean the pistol more often than every 700 rounds or so. YMMV. If I had it to do over, I’d make the lube groove just as deep, but narrower. I think the design could get by on half that much lube.

                  In my opinion the terminal effectiveness of the BDacp is not all that much greater than the 230 TC boolit. I was just maximizing it. The Lee BD acp molds I have have a slight radius on the meplat making the difference even more slight. I was designing a boolit to suit myself, so why not go for the max possible? My real complaints about the 230 TC are that the drive band is too long, the lube groove is too wide and shallow and the boolit takes up too much room in the case. The big advantages of the 230 TC is that it casts very easily and will feed reliably through most anything. These can be significant advantages.

                  If you are worried about the terminal effectiveness of your shots, it’s much more important that you to cast up and shoot 10,000 of either, rather than obsessing over which is the better design.
                  So choose whichever will get those 10,000 rounds downrange for you sooner. Worry about the design details later.”

                  BD

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                  charlesgilbert
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                    Thanks for the research. I just wanted one ’cause it was a nice lookin little fat boolit in these pictures I found archived on CB.  8)

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                    stephandegroat
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                      ill you have 5 cavity PB? Not gas checking.

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                      adamsutherland
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                        List updated.

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                        johntibbs
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                          Dromia, you missed my mould request in post #34, buried in all the text I cut and pasted. :)

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                            List updated.

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                            SwedeNelson
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                              CLOSED
                              Will get it on the mill next

                              Bullet maker, maker
                              Al Nelson

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                              johntibbs
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                                Did I miss this one?  I don’t see it in inventory, so I’m thinking it hasn’t been produced yet.  Just wondering because the Frankenstein mold is on it’s way to me and it was closed after this one.

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                                SwedeNelson
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                                  Fishman

                                  Its still in the works
                                  had to do some shuffling but its coming

                                  Bullet maker, maker
                                  Al Nelson

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                                  johntibbs
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                                    Thanks for the reply Al.  I sure don’t want to miss this one.

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