.568-570 RF HB Confederate Gardner Bullet Group buy

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    darylnoonan
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      Ladies and Gentlemen, a few months ago I sent the Bullet mold company NOE a original Gardner dropped bullet as well as a Reproduction bullet made by Dean Thomas

      About 15-20 Years ago Dean Thomas (civil war historian and ordnance expert) had built for him a reproduction of the Confederate Gardner bullet making machine. he also had a custom nose pour mold made.

      For those that may not be familiar with it, the Gardner had a lead “flange” that as the bullet was formed after casting would cause it to grip the paper that would hold the powder. It was a good idea in theory but the field use showed that it weakened the paper and it would rip where the bullet began spilling powder.

      Fast forward to a year ago while at a Relic show in Richmond I found a example he had made of an unformed and formed bullet made from this mold. As both a Civil war Nut, Relic hunter, Black powder shooter, and Bullet caster, I snagged it up as I had been looking for an example to potentially have a mold made. I Sent in examples a while back and I just got the drawings for it. Unfortunately he could not make the unformed “flanged” version, but a finished bullet mold was rather simple.

      The drawings are done and there is interest to get this group buy going. Please post on here your interest and number of molds you would want

      I have this cross posted on the NSSA and other sites that may be interested. there is only a need for 10 people to be interested to get the ball rolling, and obviously I am one of those 10

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      FYokubaitis
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        I’m interested and would like to get 1 mold.

        Fred Yokubaitis

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        Mike B.
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          Got a question looking at your drawing.
          Do you plan to shoot the Confederate Gardner in a 60 caliber rifle?
          Or is the plan to size & lube down the .593 dimension on the cast bullet dimension to around .578 or so?
          Might it not be better to take the .593 dimension down a bit so that the Minie as i believe it was originally designed will drop down the barrel, and then be seated and the skirt flared when it is rammed home on top of the powder charge?

          Thanks
          Mike B.

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          darylnoonan
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            Got a question looking at your drawing.
            Do you plan to shoot the Confederate Gardner in a 60 caliber rifle?
            Or is the plan to size & lube down the .593 dimension on the cast bullet dimension to around .578 or so?
            Might it not be better to take the .593 dimension down a bit so that the Minie as i believe it was originally designed will drop down the barrel, and then be seated and the skirt flared when it is rammed home on top of the powder charge?

            Thanks
            Mike B.

            Mike I spoke with Al on the phone about this, the base will be .573, not .593

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            Mike B.
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              That will work nicely for a 58 Caliber Holy Black

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              Mike B.
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                I figure that going from .593 down to .573 over the .210 skirt dimension will drop the cast bullet weight by about 10 grains of pure lead.

                To that end I have amended the original drawing to what I think that the cast bullet will look like pending yours and the forums approval.

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                darylnoonan
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                  It looks good to me and hopefully everyone that has said they would Want it will come over and post as such so we can get the tooling ordered

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                  Full.Lead.Taco
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                    Is everyone onboard with the drawing that mike b posted?

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                    darylnoonan
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                      I posted on the groups that showed intrest, only one person came over. Most of the NSSA guys want one made at a minimum of .575 preferably .578. I asked Al if he could scale the drawing up to .575, he said he would see what he can do

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                      Mike B.
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                        I marked up the original drawing to show the two dimensions that you mentioned.
                        Hopefully Al will be able make up some official drawings once you get a feeling for what the NSSA shooters want.

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