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kodydowney
I’ve been casting the HTC .459 500 grain projectile for a 458 socom. I love heavy bullets and got to thinking…I would love a 4 pin set 600 grain(with the flat nose pin installed) hp mould for 458 socom. I think the heavy bullet would be amazing for expansion. I know most moulds have 3 pins included flat, short and long. I would like to see this mould with 4 pins. Flat, short, long and longer for a deep hp cavity. I would like to see a similar profile to the 500 grain bullet. I posted this on the 458 socom Facebook page and have 5 guys interested already. I will urge them to sign up here on this forum so they can get in line. Anyone here interested in this? I have a name picked out as well MOAB (mother of all bullets). Thanks!
1.darksoldier300-no groove
2.bsev81-either
3.magnum mike-no groove
4.hayfieldfarm-no groove
5.bullseye baldee-crimp groove
6.raffica 762-crimp groove
7.bmike-crimp groove
8.cornmastah-no groove
9.jamesbousman-crimp groove
10.intel6-either
11.dreg-prefers groove but good with none.
12.akfshmn-crimp groove will accept no groove
13.andarxx-prefers no groove will accept groove
14.daviscustom-no groove
15.arwildcat- no groove
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17.dreg-no groove
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Full.Lead.Taco
I was excited to see this post! So a quick thought… If we were to keep the crimp groove, it would allow the 45-70 guys to use this bullet too. It wouldn’t affect 458 socom performance, but wouldn’t look as pretty in the socom as it does in the 45-70. Another option would be to check with Al to see if we can run the group buy with both options, one with a crimp groove, one without. That way the people who want to use it for the 45-70 can jump onboard too. We can use the nose length from the 354 gr socom bullet and open the meplat up a little to hit the .250 if that’s what we want to do. I think the 4 options of HP depth would be real fun and a great option. Also, gas check or no?
Full.Lead.Taco
I talked to Al to ask about having both options of crimp grooves and gas checks… He worried that having such a long bullet and going in afterwords to remove the crimp groove–it wouldn’t look clean enough. He recommended cutting 2 different tools for crimp grooves and non-crimp groove bullets. He said gas checks are easy so we can do gas check or non-gas check options on either. Personally I’d like the crimp groove for the 45-70, but I might just need to order one of each.
Here is the bullet shortened up a tad and crimp groove removed:
Thoughts?
Awesome glad you guys are digging the idea. I would love to see both options with or without a crimp groove. For me on the 458 I don’t see a real need for a gas check but the 45-70 guys might. So can I add you guys to the list? That would leave us only needing 1 more person and if they don’t come along I’ll just buy 2 moulds.
I talked to Al to ask about having both options of crimp grooves and gas checks… He worried that having such a long bullet and going in afterwords to remove the crimp groove–it wouldn’t look clean enough. He recommended cutting 2 different tools for crimp grooves and non-crimp groove bullets. He said gas checks are easy so we can do gas check or non-gas check options on either. Personally I’d like the crimp groove for the 45-70, but I might just need to order one of each.
Here is the bullet shortened up a tad and crimp groove removed:
Thoughts?
I love the design I think this is going to be a big hit!
Full.Lead.Taco
Full.Lead.Taco
I’d assume similar results as this one: https://youtu.be/0KImSdSDUlw
Of course, I haven’t played more with velocity and alloy to get a perfect mushroom–but it sure is explosive.
Cornmastah, this is exactly what I wanted, you call it kinda crazy but the deep pin is the one I’m most excited to play with!
Full.Lead.Taco
I’d need to slow them down a little too. The hp is just so large lol!
Looks like this bullet will be devastating. Can’t wait to see these bad boys in lead form! Have you tried pure lead in the 500? Might mushroom instead of explode.
Makes sense. I assume these big 600s wont be able to move very fast so that may aid in expansion!
brettsevert
Jamesbousman
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