HTC402-160-RF-CF2 RG2 BB & HTC402-188-WFN-BV1 RG2 PB

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    alstern
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      1. HTC402-160-RF-CF2 RG2 BB
      2. HTC402-188-WFN-BV1 RG2 PB

      These are both 40 calibers No Lube Groove Hollow Point bullets. I need them for my new 10mm. I prefer 3 to 5 cavities, aluminum but will take what I can get. I The important part is the NLG and HP.

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      Mike B.
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        AbitNutzToo

        Since this is your first posting you may wish to know that the RG2 designation denotes a 2 cavity hollow point designation.

        NOE makes a two cavity hollow point version which is designated as an RG2 and a four cavity hollow point version which is designated as an RG4… NOE does not make a 3 or 5 cavity hollow point version moulds… Only what is shown on the store page.

        In order for at least 4 other individuals to sign on to also want a run of either mould design, can I get you to confirm by posting that what you are actually looking for … is a four cavity hollow point design.

        Below is the link and instructions to what you would like to see run. To aid you and others that are posting requests for new stock runs …

        https://noebulletmolds.com/smf/index.php?topic=713.0

        Also to try to help you and others new to NOE posting designators, I have attempted to dissect the mould designator intel that is used on the forum website and in the NOE store…. for potential edification purposes

        Hopefully you and others will take no offense… on my attempted elaborations on the NOE stock nomenclature.

          Type    Dia      ~Wt    Meplat type
        HCT = PDR      RF = Round Flat          Stock              RG2 = 2 Cavity Hollow Point      Base type
                  Coat                                              Bin                RG4 = 4 Cavity Hollow Point      BB = Bevel Base

        1. HTC    402-    160-        RF                -CF2                RG4                                              BB           

          Type        Dia      ~Wt    Meplat type
        HCT = PDR        WFN = Wide Flat      Stock            RG2 = 2 Cavity Hollow Point  Base Type
                  Coat                        Nose                  Bin        RG4 = 4 Cavity Hollow Point  PB  = Plain Base

        2.  HTC    402-    188-    WFN                    -BV1              RG4                                            PB

        I sincerely hope that this intel helps you and others in your posting endeavors.
        More importantly, it should also help NOE proper to properly ascertain your actual requested mould requests.

        Your call on how you want to proceed …
        Take Care, & Stay Safe…

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          Mike,
          Thanks for the quick and concise reply. I really appreciate you clearing that up for me. I was obviously confused about the nomenclature.

          1. HTC402-160-RF-RG4 BB or HTC402-160-RF-RG2 BB
          2. HTC402-188-WFN-RG2 PB or HTC402-188-WFN-RG4 PB

          So I think this is correct. I’ll go for either in 2 or 4 cavities.

          I saw on Taco’s show that you were playing with steel molds. I have a Magma Master Caster and as you know, they pretty much require steel or iron molds. I’ve never tried it but I’ve been told they’ll obliterate an aluminum mold pretty quickly. Is there any chance you’ll make any molds for machine casters?

          Currently, the only way I know of to get a hollow point machine mold is to buy an iron mold from Magma ($100) with very limited selection or from Accurate ($150) much greater selection but much more expensive, then send it to Erik at Hollow Point Mold Service. He just raised his price to $225 to convert a machine mold to hollow points. That is one incredible amount of money for a 2-cavity mold. It ends up being a great mold but it’s now made of freakin’ gold. We’re talking a minimum of $325 but more likely $375 plus to get a machine hollow point mold. I think NOE could do it for a great deal less.

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            AbitNutzToo

            All you really have to do is set the lead pot mould furnace to be at approximately 700 degrees. Too hot is the destroyer of moulds…
            Also all one needs is a dial lead thermometer to setup the temp. Thats if your furnace does not have a digital thermometer and you trust its readings.

            The final cast bullet weight will depend on your actual alloy utilized.
            More tin = a lighter, & harder, plus a potentially slightly larger as cast diameter due to a better fill-out from the alloy.
            Less tin = an heavier, & softer cast bullet, plus a slightly smaller as cast diameter due to a potentially less amount of fill-out… which is what the alloy is doing for you.

            Before we go any further … It was not me that you saw on the video…

            Magma furnaces tend to not need mould handles…,
            So you might want to look at the link below in regard to your query. That NOE store page shows the NOE to Magma furnace adapters from std hand moulds to magma furnaces.

            https://noebulletmolds.com/site/product-category/specialty-moulds/page/2/

            I normally prefer aluminum moulds, & I have around 40+ of the aluminum HP versions in my war bag at the moment.
            I haven’t worn out one or damaged or destroyed any yet…
            I also have a number of iron moulds that I have designed HP pins for, using a separate HP custom house…

            Brass not so much as it tends to be heavier than iron and slightly more prone to warpage over time…
            But then I tend to hand cast product…

            Even with a hand mould, … At a semi leisurely rate of about 3+ fills a minute, & letting the sprue cool between fills…
            You can figure at least 150 to 200 cast bullets in approximately and hour.
            That’s with a 4 cavity mould, about half that with a 2 cavity hand mould.
            Most probably more with a magma machine… but then I’m not selling cast bullet product as a business… nor supplying law enforcement with training ammo…

            Running the lead furnace & thus the mould too hot is what will due in either Aluminum or Brass in short order … Too hot also will tend to shorten the iron moulds too… Besides warping brass moulds.

            You can PM me if you want to talk more about this off line… in detail…

            Take Care, & Stay Safe…
            Mike B.

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