44 Mag mold for coating

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  • 2017-04-04 at 22:58 #489208
    jbpaul
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      I have slicksided molds for most of the calibers I frequently shoot, except for the one I shoot the most, 44 Magnum.

      I would really like to have a 265 grain PB FP/HP .434 mold for coating.

      Any others out there interested in such?

      JB

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    • 2017-04-04 at 23:50 #507415
      Full.Lead.Taco
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        I think there was someone else looking for a slick sided 44 mag bullet.  What kind of dimensions were you thinking?

        2017-04-05 at 00:17 #507416
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          265 gr, .434 PB FP/HP

          If this generates a bit of interest, I will draw something up in my spare time over the next couple of days and bounce it off Al and the group.

          2017-04-05 at 02:09 #507417
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            A slick sided bullet dropped at .432 powdercoated will get you .433 at least.

            A .434 coated will be around .435 and will be a beast to size if you’re doing a bunch, working with hard alloy or sizing down to .429 for some of the newer 44s.

            I would be in on a HTC design 44 bullet. Would want a WFN with soft edges…or something with a bore riding nose section (like an ogival wadcutter with a little less meplat) that makes bullets rain from the mold.

            2017-04-05 at 14:55 #507418
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              Would you want to modify the WFN bullet that was just run?  Like shorten it slightly, kill the lube grooves, make the meplat a little less wide?

              2017-04-05 at 15:56 #507419
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                Shorten the nose as well. I think the meplat is fine. Soften the edges for leverguns and Ruger magazines.

                Can you make a video of how it performs at distance. Until then the jury is out. 2-3 inches at 100 yards would tell me if the meplat is too large.

                2017-04-05 at 16:17 #507420
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                  Shorten the nose as well. I think the meplat is fine. Soften the edges for leverguns and Ruger magazines.

                  Can you make a video of how it performs at distance. Until then the jury is out. 2-3 inches at 100 yards would tell me if the meplat is too large.

                  I am not sure when I will have time to test it out.  I just cast and powder coated some, but I don’t have a load for it yet.  For now, here are a couple drawings to ponder on.


                  2017-04-05 at 16:27 #507421
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                    Perfect.

                    AD,

                    What say you? Let’s split the difference on diameter. .433.

                    JB

                    2017-04-05 at 17:37 #507422
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                      That’s about what I had in mind. Thanks for the drawing, cornmastah.

                      I would prefer less meplat for feeding and stability. Since I mostly shoot HP’s, the huge meplat is less of a necessity for me.  However, I would be just as happy with the larger meplat if it flies well.

                      Concerning diameter, I cast rather soft and powdercoat.  I size to groove diameter, or slightly larger, before coating and let the coating add the required 1-2 thou over groove. I will size again after coating, if necessary.  So a .432 or .433 mold works in my routine as long as there is some semblance of a crimp groove left after sizing to .429 for the revolvers.

                      2017-04-05 at 17:40 #507423
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                        so .433? or .432?

                        2017-04-05 at 17:45 #507424
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                          .432 works.

                          I am curious how much weight a hollow point would remove if RG molds are an option?

                          2017-04-05 at 19:06 #507425
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                            I would go this 4 cav alum .432

                            Thanks!!

                            2017-04-05 at 19:07 #507426
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                              Here it is slightly modified:

                              2017-04-05 at 19:59 #507427
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                                I’m in for 2 5 cavity plain base molds. If this performs like I think it will…I may be retiring some molds.

                                2017-04-05 at 23:35 #507428
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                                  .310 or .300 meplat?

                                  2017-04-05 at 23:50 #507429
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                                    310 should feed in marlins and rugers and leave enough meat around the hollow point to prevent blow ups when pushed at rifle speeds.

                                    310 unless there’s opposition.

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