Modified 311 180Gr. FN K-31 5 cavity GC

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    tommeboy
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      Would this be able to be made with a 0.300″-0.301″ bore ride section? This would make a good 308 win design.

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      richarddupraz1
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        So, has the final design been decided yet? And how many more commitments do we need to make the mold a reality?

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        michaelburns
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          Ooh, bet that would go well in my 308 Garand with its 301/310 barrel.

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          daveridenour
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            So, has the final design been decided yet? And how many more commitments do we need to make the mold a reality?

            It looks like about 15 people have expressed an interest in this design so far. I’ll go along with whatever type lube groove design the rest of you want.

            Let’s move this one to the Active Group Buys!!!

            Dave

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            richarddupraz1
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              I’m not so concerned with the type of lube groove as long as the base bands are .311, nose at a minimum of .301″, max .302″ , length not exceeding 1” and weight as near 180 grns as possible which should be doable with the above parameters, I think. One grease groove.

              What needs to be done to get this mold into production?

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              daveridenour
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                I’m not so concerned with the type of lube groove as long as the base bands are .311, nose at a minimum of .301″, max .302″ , length not exceeding 1” and weight as near 180 grns as possible which should be doable with the above parameters, I think. One grease groove.
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                I’ll go along with Rich on that!!!

                Let’s Get-R-Done!

                Dave

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                  signing up for a 2 cavity.

                  thx

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                  tommeboy
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                    5 cavity for me Al. Whatever is easier for you and your tool maker on the lube grove. Don’t matter. Oh, And a top punch. 0.301″ nose I think will attract more than anything larger.

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                    tommeboy
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                      Please let me know I want to prepay as I have the $$$$ right now.

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                        Guys, we really need to make a change on the lube groove. One it is carrying too much lube. Two, the way it is right now it is a very weak area and can crush the midsection causing an out of balance.

                        How about a round shallow single groove or two shallow thin ones. Either way it will support the bullet so it has more strength in the bearing section wear it is needed as it is a weak design as it is right now.

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                        Larry Gibson
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                          In discussion with Tomme;

                          If you all are looking at pushing that bullet above 2000 fps with todays modern lubes there is no need for that deep of a lube groove.  What you have there is an unsupported bullet column of only .25 +/- to hold 80% of the bullet weight under acceleration.  That front 80% of the bullet only has 15% of the bearing surface.  That is a recipe for collapse or the nose bending to the side during acceleration or even when sizing and GCing.  I would suggest a lube groove depth of .023 maximum and would actually look at splitting that single groove into 2 grooves.  Doing one or both will substantially strengthen the bullets ability to withstand higher acceleration which promotes better accuracy.

                          Larry Gibson

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                          barrywgoodwin
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                            Tomme and Larry are right on the mark. Thank You both ! 

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                            SwedeNelson
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                              Larry, Tomme, others
                              Something new to look at

                              NOE_Bullet_Moulds_311_197Gr_FN_.jpg

                              NOE_Bullet_Moulds_311_197Gr_FN__197_gr_Sketch.jpg

                              Weight is getting up – we can play with that too – if needs be

                              Bullet maker, maker
                              Al Nelson

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                              tommeboy
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                                Cut the 0.110″ drive band back to 0.100″ and shorten the bore ride to 0.145 from 0.186″

                                I think that should fit in the neck and throat a little better on rifles with tighter throats and the nose a little shorter to help it to not slump. Like to see what that would look like and the B.C. and weight. Should lighten it a little too.

                                And a single shallow round lube groove with  0.09″ width. That should help with the bearing surface.

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                                johnblackwell
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                                  That looks good to me. Wouldn’t you want as much bore ride as possible? Or would that put the smaller 30s oal to long?

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                                    The round nose is still quit long. Just trying to keep the gas check in the neck and still help out with ones that have a tight throat. The less distortion on either end of the bullet is what is going to make it start off as straight as possible.

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