NOE 311-188-FN or 30 Hunter

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OK guys and gals. Post up how you are doing with this mold. Mine is a dream to cast with. It cast exactly as the print shows.

This is how mine is shooting right now. All were shot at 100 yds.

Load:
311-188-fn sized to 0.310″
Lube is RandyRats Tac-X
Hornady gas check
H4895  31-35grs from left to right on board
Alloy is 18lbs COWW and 1lb Linotype

Gun is a Savage mdl 10 with a Shilen SS Select Match with a very tight throat. It has over 3K rounds and still very short. Twist is 1-10″

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[tommeboyParticipant]

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No one else is loading these yet?????

[daveridenourParticipant]

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It looks like you have a winner there. Keep us updated on how everything progresses.

I just received mine a few days ago, and haven’t cast with it yet. I have to do my casting outside, and its snowing lightly with the temps in the mid 30s now, so I may not get to actually use mine until late spring.

Dave

[ericstevensParticipant]

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Mine was just delivered late this afternoon, so hasn’t even been warmed up.

**11/15 update: after heat cycling a couple of times in a 450* oven, I cast up a batch.  188.5gr w/o GC, and .302″x.312″.  At .311″ sizing, they are looking good for my Rem700 30-06, RGS .308, and 7.5×55 K31.  They seat deeper than I want in the 300BO for supersonic rounds but would be OK for subs.  I’ll have to size some .310″ and check for seating depth/OAL.

**11/16 update: Sizing .310″ with the Lyman 450 didn’t work out as well as I would have liked, but might work just fine with a push through sizer.

[tommeboyParticipant]

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Went out today as it was a little warmer than it has been in the last week or so. Tried to get out early enough to also beat the wind that was to come.

I tried a different powder today. Varget. I also tried a load that last time seemed to shoot ok. But this time I tried some at 0.310″ and some at 0.309″

I ran the Varget from 31 grs to 35 grs. And the ones with different diameters were both loaded with 34 grs of H4895.

The 35 grains of Varget shot the best at 1.18″. All were shot at 100 yds. I think I could have shot a little better today too, but the mirage was killing me today. I thought it was from the heat off the barrel, so I made a heat shield over the barrel to keep the waves from coming up. But the mirage was coming off the field. It took sometimes a few minutes just to make one shot. I was having major eye strain from the focus going crazy in the scope from it. I tried turning the power down on the scope but that didn’t work either.

Didn’t have a chrono with me but the 35 gr Varget and the 34 gr 4895 should be pushing the 188 gr at 2200 fps. These are just first loads. I am going to start getting really picky about everything now. I just wanted a basic load that shot well. I think I may also see if I can go higher with the Varget next time out as well.

The RPM is at 152K rpm. It is moving fast in this 10 twist. I am almost at my goal of sub MOA at 2300 fps.

[SwedeNelsonKeymaster]

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tomme boy

Great shooting and thank you very much for the great report!

Bullet maker, maker
Al Nelson

[daveridenourParticipant]

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Tomme,

Thanks for posting the update. I really appreciate the pictures of your targets too. That helps a lot. Keep up the good work.

Dave

[timmalcolm]

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Looking good Tommy. That’s screamin fast for that twist. Speaks volumes about the quality of your bullets.

[sgt.mike]

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Good shooting Tomme.
Just a quick question you said
“The 35 grains of Varget shot the best at 1.18″. All were shot at 100 yds. I think I could have shot a little better today too, but the mirage was killing me today.”
was the bullets sized to .309″ or .310″?

Mirage  yeah she is something else, as a rule usually a vertical string is produced, looks like you did extremely well controlling the mirage Kudos.
LOL now go hit that 2300 fps ….

[tommeboyParticipant]

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I know I posted this on the other forum but it goes with this post. Goodsteel had my barrel last week to look over the chamber to see if it needed a set back or not. The chamber looked good. But he felt we needed to touch up the crown a little. I think he did a good job.

I have to hold off a little bit for right now as I think I having a lube failure. I shot a few more and was getting some leading at the last few inches of the barrel. I caught it early so it came right out with a few passes with a new 0.338″ brush.  The lube was TacX. I am wondering if I should tumble lube them in some alox after lubing them with the TacX? I am thinking it might be from the front section of the bullet causing it. It is in the corners of the grooves.

[timmalcolm]

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That sounds more like skid to me Tommy.
Also, remember to always shoot over a Chronograph. I have tried to estimate speed by powder charge and it just doesn’t work. Sometimes I’m slower, and sometimes I’m faster, but you have to verify before you draw conclusions. It would be like taping over the speedometer of your car and driving as fast as you can, then guessing what your speed was by the RPM gauge. LOL!

Now, if indeed you are experiencing lube failure, I would recommend you give White Label 2700+ a try. If you PM me your address (sorry I lost it) I’ll send you a sample pack with four of their most popular lubes.

[tommeboyParticipant]

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If it was skidding, wouldn’t it be doing it at the throat???? The throat looked good as far I I could see. When I looked down the muzzle, I could see it. Like I said, it cleaned up with just a few passes with a new brush.

I am going to try to get out this week end. I already loaded some more that I wiped the nose with alox to see if it is the nose dragging??????? I have had good luck with tumble lubing them after lubing the conventional way. 

[tommeboyParticipant]

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Well I made it out today again. I tested some loads that were lubed with the TacX then tumble lubed in thinned alox. I will say that the TacX did not seem to have a cold bore flier. If you look at the top left that was 5 rounds of the 34 grs of H4895. The bore was completely clean. I stripped it of everything as last time I had a little leading. The paper tore right at that group when I was taking it down.

It looks like I am going to have some more work to do. It seems that the 35 grs is about going to be the max for this combo. For what I want anyway. I am going to work on loads on each side of it and a little lower. I might also get the dacron out to see if that will help. I feel the temp today might also be a factor. It was 15* out this AM when testing. I felt like I was shooting really good today.

The 35 gr of Varget did not do as well as last time as lubed with just the TacX
2275 hi
2203 low
72 es
27 sd
2232 avg

36 gr Varget
2278 avg
2304 hi
2253 low
51 es
18 sd

37 gr varget
2345 avg
2393 hi
2299 low
94 es
29 sd

The chrono would not clear so here are some #’s with the Varget load that was Lubed with TacX then tumble lubed with thinned Alox.

35 gr TL TacX Varget
2219
2211
2206
2220
2264
Lost 2 readings

36 gr Varget TacX TL alox
2342
2265
2293
2302
2308
2281

Then my standard let anyone shoot my gun load. And kids!

21 GR 5744 200 GR lee rn Tac1 lube
1750
1771
1762
1770
1760
1774
1756

[tommeboyParticipant]

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I think the Alox TL loads looked the best. The Alox seemed to tighten them up.

[tommeboyParticipant]

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The one high shot with the 35 varget load I adjusted the scope down after that first shot. That is why it is high.

[timmalcolm]

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Now THIS is what I call some great shooting! Fantastic Tommy. Very well documented.

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