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Elkins45
Any interest in a 30 caliber RG2 or RG4 mold dropping a 200 grain or so hollow point? My intention would be to get a bullet that maximizes killing power out of a suppressed 308 or 300 Blackout. Having a relatively heavy bullet with a hollow point would help make it a more humane killer, especially if cast from a softer alloy and if the hollow point were relatively deep. In a perfect world we could get an RG4 with 2 PB and 2 GC cavities.
Any interest? There’s a somewhat similar group buy running from another maker but I don’t expect it to happen until 2016 if current lead times are any predictor.
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MEmeMEme
danbethea
This is the 311 247gr. FN modifies to work with our RG hollow point sysytem
Not sure if a .20 meplate will feed OK – but this is what it would look like
The deep HP may be a bear to get off of the pins.
Could offer a cup point pine with it tooWe don’t offer a 5 sided pin and don’t have any real intentions of furnishing one
Bullet maker, maker
Al NelsonI’ve done a bunch of experimenting with subsonic 300 Blackout hollow points (mostly the Lee 230gr) and have a couple thoughts on this.
First – that .200″ nose is too big, and that much flat rim around the hollow point is not desirable. About .020″ rim is good. Your .120″ hollow point would work well in a ~.160″ meplat, and feed well in most AR platforms.
Dropping off the pin – With well polished pins, the included angle on the pin can be as low as 20-25 degrees, and still let the bullet drop off. Less than 20*, and they start sticking, with WW alloy anyway.
You could extend that pin to more of a point, to get a deeper cavity with more progressive expansion. I like to end my pins in a .050″ wide tip. A straight sided tapered hollow point seems to perform better across a wider velocity envelope than the rounded cup shape shown in this drawing.
For the Blackout, your 311365 198Gr design feeds a lot easier; that nose style truncated at ~.160″ and hollow pointed, with a longer body for weight, would make a great subsonic hollow point.
For the Blackout, your 311365 198Gr design feeds a lot easier; that nose style truncated at ~.160″ and hollow pointed, with a longer body for weight, would make a great subsonic hollow point.
That would be fantastic! I have the 311365 plain base and accuracy-wise it’s a great subsonic performer. An RG4 with two plain and two GC cavities would be just awesome. That way I could make subsonic and supersonic bullets at the same time.
SwedeNelson
Yondering
We need the .20″ on the nose of the bullet
to work with the .20″ size of the RG pins
That’s the limiting factor for RG’sIts a production limitation – not what will perform
the best – That’s why I stated “Not sure if a .20 meplate
will feed OK”
We could increase the size of the HP hole but have to
keep the meplate size.The same would go with the 311365 (.20″ meplate)
Sorry
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Al Nelsonrobertwheary
kerstencourt
OK what are we interested in?
The RG version of the 311 247Gr. Whisper bullet (post #9)?
Comes out about 226Gr.Or the 311299 that we did in a RG (post #13)?
Comes out about 190Gr.Please advise ASAP
Bullet maker, maker
Al NelsonIf you think the Whisper bullet will stabilize in a 1-10 twist then I’m OK with it. If not then I lean toward the 311299 because my preference would be for a versatile bullet to use in both 308 and 300AAC.
Edit: I found a website that says the 226 grain Whisper bullet would be stable in 1-10 at 1000fps (if I ran the numbers correctly) so that’s my choice as the guy who started the thread…but if the others object I can be persuaded.
MEmeMEme
danbethea
SwedeNelson
robertwheary
kerstencourt
williamliles
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