HTC-459-367 (458 Socom & 45-70) Any interest?

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Any interest in a bullet like this one?  Maybe also in an RG config which would bring the weight roughly to 350ish?  Maybe a crimp groove?

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[davidpalliesParticipant]

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As soon as I posted, I thought about maybe a gas check possibility?

[Full.Lead.TacoKeymaster]

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Gas check would be an option.  Just gotta make sure everyone is ok with this version of the design, or if more changes need to be made.

[davidpalliesParticipant]

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It looks pretty good to me, but I am no expert.

Watermelon testing needs to be done.

[Intel6Participant]

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It also looks good to me. I am looking for a 300-350 ish bullet for my SOCOM and because of the lighter weight I also want a gas check. As long as the bullet shank/body stays in the neck with the GC then I am happy.

I was hoping this might bet going somewhere.  I liked the  longer nose and short body but was looking for less weight and a GC. I guess this is kind of taking the place of that one?

http://noebulletmolds.com/smf/index.php/topic,879.0.html

[Full.Lead.TacoKeymaster]

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Yeah, plus we are gaining the option of a hollow point.

[teemuParticipant]

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It also looks good to me. I am looking for a 300-350 ish bullet for my SOCOM and because of the lighter weight I also want a gas check. As long as the bullet shank/body stays in the neck with the GC then I am happy.

I was hoping this might bet going somewhere.  I liked the  longer nose and short body but was looking for less weight and a GC. I guess this is kind of taking the place of that one?

http://noebulletmolds.com/smf/index.php/topic,879.0.html

When I get some time I can cast some bullets on that Saeco 61023 mold and send measurements to cornmastah but those measurements is going to be Pb and 2% Sn alloy. Haven’t got any WW’s.
If this topic could get some interested people. I don’t know how cornmastah can play that program which is used to do drawings.. I’m also interested GC version. It is pitty how this topic/discussion “died” because I thought someone is already send sample bullets to Al like there is mentioned on that topic..

I’m mean that link which Intel6 is linked…

[Full.Lead.TacoKeymaster]

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Yes, get me some measurements and I can draw it up for that other design.

[davidryanParticipant]

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Yeah, plus we are gaining the option of a hollow point.

You had me at hollow point…

[Full.Lead.TacoKeymaster]

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Any changes you guys want me to make?

[davidpalliesParticipant]

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Is there any idea on when this may be available?

[adamsutherlandModerator]

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This is just the discussion thread, when the design is agreed it will become an active group buy, when there are at least ten orders Al will order the tooling and cut the moulds.

Read the forum stickies for how these buys work.

[davidpalliesParticipant]

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OK, I’ll read the stickies, but I agree!

Not that I would know any better. 😮

[davidryanParticipant]

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Maybe off topic but what “tooling” is required that he wouldn’t have already? I don’t know mold making business so I have absolutely no idea how it all works. If it’s beyond this thread, ignore.

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They have to “cut a tool” to make each new mold design.  I’m not a machinist, so I can’t explain it any better than that.  I have seen what the tools look like, but I defer to someone who is more knowledgeable in that area.

[devinfry]

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I like the 357gr solid and 342gr HP design. I too would prefer a gas check as the .458 seems to like them vs PB. A crimp groove is ok with me, I don’t need it but it really doesn’t hurt anything. Like I said before I would just like a negative tolerance on the nose (forward of the crimp groove) like the piledriver and Accurate piledrivers have so it doesn’t interfere with the throat in my .458.

A cherry cutter (basically a custom ground endmill) has to be designed and ground. The way it looks to me NOE uses circular interpolation on their CNC mill to cut the cavities with the cherry. This way the bullet size can be changed some, but band to groove depth is as ground in the tool.

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